Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 2954680)

Baseball, I've spoken with Todd at ALPA LEC meetings and off the campus settings, and I've never heard him say any of those!! In fact, he says there are going to be some good changes to Reserve. That was one of the biggest requests was to upgrade the Reserve part of the contract. Won't get into details here, but the abuse of Field STandby's and SCs are going to cost the company. So let's not put out misinformation that's bordering the absurd. I haven't heard this being thrown out by any ALPA team.

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2954389)

The Delta pilot group is in full-on panic and riot mode because it's 10 days past the amendable date. It's pandemonium.

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Originally Posted by Cosa Nostra (Post 2954851)

We've been used to getting a contract before or WAY before the amendable date and at times when the company wasn't making near the profits we are making now.

Originally Posted by Cosa Nostra (Post 2954851)

We've been used to getting a contract before or WAY before the amendable date and at times when the company wasn't making near the profits we are making now.

Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 2954914)

Excluding the current contract extension please let us know which contract negotiations fit this description.

I know I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it was, but I can't remember a single contract that went easily and early.

You must be referring to Delta's process.

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2954902)

You think when you walk into negotiating with a multi-billion dollar ask, it's going to be easy? The more gains you want, the longer it's going to take. The company isn't just going to fork over the cash because they are making more money.

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Originally Posted by Cosa Nostra (Post 2954922)

Won't be easy at all, I'm just telling you why things are getting a bit crazy at our end.



This just adds to being under staffed and going into a summer schedule with 4% more flying. The pilots literally put the company on it's back and saved the operation last summer.



Managements communications aren't in line with what we're seeing at the negotiating table either, very frustrating.

Originally Posted by Cosa Nostra (Post 2954851)

We've been used to getting a contract before or WAY before the amendable date and at times when the company wasn't making near the profits we are making now.

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2955040)

Are you saying your (Delta's) last contract a fluke? Because IIRC, it went on for a couple of years and the first TA was shot down. And didn't the rank and file want to replace some MEC members during contract negotiations? I know I'm getting old and senile, but I didn't think that Delta's last contract was settled anywhere close to the amenable date.

Originally Posted by Cosa Nostra (Post 2955136)

The demographic has changed since the NWA merger plus the huge hiring wave that brought in a lot of younger guys/gals that went through hell during their regional years .. this is for the better. The pilot group was always a YES group (Atlanta) especially when they saw the increase in pay rates. That is something of the past, DTW MSP NYC have taken a lot of the voting power away from the Yes men. We'll see ..