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Boeing Aviator 01-04-2020 09:47 AM

My two cents.

When the majority of adults over 35 to 40 have grown up in a automated society most specifically cars, buses and trucks and it’s a generally accepted norm. Then will start the move to pilotless aircraft. Until then the technology may be available but it will not be universally accepted. I believe pilots will be one of the last jobs automated and replaced by robots.

Doctors, lawyers etc. will be replaced before pilots in my humble opinion. I believe most on this forum will be retired before this happens for pilotless airliners.

Texasbound 01-04-2020 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2951100)
^ ^ ^

FWIW, that A320 is doing exactly what the pilot commanded.

Is there any pilot out there, except perhaps for the one who was flying that day, who thinks full stall demonstrations are a good idea at very low altitudes? Every single Boeing ever made would have also ended up in the trees.

Um, no. No matter what is engaged or disengaged when you move the throttles forward on a Boing the Engines respond. When you pull back, the plane responds. According to the Captain he did that. Yes, the investigation said otherwise, but since when do we believe investigations? Pilots are always right.

KonaJoe 01-04-2020 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Texasbound (Post 2951111)
Um, no. No matter what is engaged or disengaged when you move the throttles forward on a Boing the Engines respond. When you pull back, the plane responds. According to the Captain he did that. Yes, the investigation said otherwise, but since when do we believe investigations? Pilots are always right.

I don't have a link to back this up but I read somewhere that the engines took much longer to spool back up than expected. So they did respond. Technique...

Daniel Larusso 01-04-2020 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Texasbound (Post 2951111)
Um, no. No matter what is engaged or disengaged when you move the throttles forward on a Boing the Engines respond. When you pull back, the plane responds. According to the Captain he did that. Yes, the investigation said otherwise, but since when do we believe investigations? Pilots are always right.

Perhaps you should stick to talking about aircraft you’re more familiar with. Putting up a picture of an A300-600 as evidence alone says enough.

C130driver 01-04-2020 11:44 AM

So when they automate airplanes without pilots, who will they blame when mishaps happen?

navigatro 01-04-2020 12:04 PM

I am going to be really mad when they replace strippers with computers.

tomgoodman 01-04-2020 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2951168)
I am going to be really mad when they replace strippers with computers.

Last lines from the classic movie “Dinner at Eight”: :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDxBnYsjdKM

Grumble 01-04-2020 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Texasbound (Post 2951111)
Um, no. No matter what is engaged or disengaged when you move the throttles forward on a Boing the Engines respond. When you pull back, the plane responds. According to the Captain he did that. Yes, the investigation said otherwise, but since when do we believe investigations? Pilots are always right.

Wanna bet?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008...ne_468x253.jpg


Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso (Post 2951146)
Perhaps you should stick to talking about aircraft you’re more familiar with. Putting up a picture of an A300-600 as evidence alone says enough.

Better yet, not post three airplanes that were pure pilot error.

Cactus 1549 was the first North American hull loss of an A320 after what, 25 years since first delivery? Can’t count how many Boeing and McD airplanes were lost over that period of time.

High on sky 01-04-2020 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2951013)
Planes, ATC, and the entire aviation infrastructure would have to be completely redesigned and rebuilt for pilotless planes.

What do you think the NextGen air traffic system is all about?


Human pilots are the safest thing going. Anything else would be exponentially less safe.
Human pilots are the leading cause of hull losses.


Don’t tell me about self-driving cars, because the order of magnitude of simplicity to make a car drive itself is hundreds of times easier...
Not really. Self driving cars will have to deal with a lot more of the “human factor” (e.g. human driven cars, bicyclists, pedestrians, etc.) and humans unpredictability is hard to program for. There would be significantly less of that problem with flying.

DarinFred 01-04-2020 06:34 PM

Human pilots are also the leading cause of hull saves, much outnumbering hull losses.


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