Hogan Prep Service
#51
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 376
A friend just got the invite. He asked for prep pointers, but I was hired back when they didn’t do ANY personality assessments (that’s how I got in!)
Any recommendations, or advice to avoid? Same with interview prep. I know a couple, but I think there’s one specifically for United.
Thanks for your insight.
Any recommendations, or advice to avoid? Same with interview prep. I know a couple, but I think there’s one specifically for United.
Thanks for your insight.
Take the questions at face value - do not read into them.
“I have never lied at work” is not an evaluation of your integrity… it counts towards your prudence score.
”I like fast cars” is not an assessment of your risk tolerance …it counts toward the “experiential” scale.
Always means always…like every time
Never means never…not one time ever
Also understand that it is unknown if it is a “screen in” vs “screen out” test. The test generates a full profile with specific trait scores. Only HR knows if they are screening in a specific profile or trait or screening out a specific profile or trait.
The test highlights your personality on your best day under highly self monitoring conditions so the “at work” suggestion at a the end of each question is valid.
#52
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Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 50
Thank you so much for your insightful advice!!
Yes, being truthful is one thing but being able to fit into HR's preset scale of results is another thing.
If they are looking for good leaders and great team players like a pilot's role - do I enjoy crowds? do I read deep into life? do I feel depressed often?
I can be the best pilot but what if I am introvert depressed and likes to ponder deep into life, sure being honest wouldnt get me the job!
And lastly, should I enjoy crowds? Haha, i keep seeing this question on many sample tests. What is this geared towards? I enjoy crowds at work but also like being alone when I am off duty. So if i add "at work" at the end of all questions, i should ENJOY crowds??? Since Hogan is more about your WORK personality not your MANCAVE personality right?
Yes, being truthful is one thing but being able to fit into HR's preset scale of results is another thing.
If they are looking for good leaders and great team players like a pilot's role - do I enjoy crowds? do I read deep into life? do I feel depressed often?
I can be the best pilot but what if I am introvert depressed and likes to ponder deep into life, sure being honest wouldnt get me the job!
And lastly, should I enjoy crowds? Haha, i keep seeing this question on many sample tests. What is this geared towards? I enjoy crowds at work but also like being alone when I am off duty. So if i add "at work" at the end of all questions, i should ENJOY crowds??? Since Hogan is more about your WORK personality not your MANCAVE personality right?
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 376
Thank you so much for your insightful advice!!
Yes, being truthful is one thing but being able to fit into HR's preset scale of results is another thing.
If they are looking for good leaders and great team players like a pilot's role - do I enjoy crowds? do I read deep into life? do I feel depressed often?
I can be the best pilot but what if I am introvert depressed and likes to ponder deep into life, sure being honest wouldnt get me the job!
And lastly, should I enjoy crowds? Haha, i keep seeing this question on many sample tests. What is this geared towards? I enjoy crowds at work but also like being alone when I am off duty. So if i add "at work" at the end of all questions, i should ENJOY crowds??? Since Hogan is more about your WORK personality not your MANCAVE personality right?
Yes, being truthful is one thing but being able to fit into HR's preset scale of results is another thing.
If they are looking for good leaders and great team players like a pilot's role - do I enjoy crowds? do I read deep into life? do I feel depressed often?
I can be the best pilot but what if I am introvert depressed and likes to ponder deep into life, sure being honest wouldnt get me the job!
And lastly, should I enjoy crowds? Haha, i keep seeing this question on many sample tests. What is this geared towards? I enjoy crowds at work but also like being alone when I am off duty. So if i add "at work" at the end of all questions, i should ENJOY crowds??? Since Hogan is more about your WORK personality not your MANCAVE personality right?
Go dig around on the Hogan Assessments website and see how the test works and why it is impossible to cheat on this test and why answering the way you think the company wants you to answer is a bad move. There is also a sample case for transportation pilots about how one company used the test. Also consider - the UPS profile an the UAL profile are likely not the same because nobody except HR knows what trait/profile is being screened in/out.
Just be consistent, honest and understand that extreme words like always/never will skew the results heavily towards one end of a spectrum score. Quoting from the sample profile:"Hogan found trends similar to the original study as strong performers had higher Adjustment, Ambition, Interpersonal Sensitivity, and Prudence scores compared to poor performers. However, strong performers also had higher Learning Approach scores than poor performers. In addition, Hogan found that high performing pilots are confident and rational (low Cautious), open to coaching (low Leisurely), good team players (moderate Dutiful), and make good decisions and think before they act (low Mischievous)."
The UAL profile may contain some or all of the above traits as the "go" profile...alternatively they might care less and are looking to avoid the person that demonstrates a low "interpersonal sensitivity" score....nobody knows!
If you pass - great - you can have confidence that you have the trait that UAL wants. If you fail - you might have the trait that UAL doesn't want but its not a reflection of your skills as a pilot or judgement of your character. It is what it is...
The "likes crowds" question feeds the "sociability" trait. It is unknown if UAL even looks at the Sociability trait. They might not care where you fall on the sociability scale! They may only care about "learning style" or "adjustment". You could be stressing yourself out over a question that doesn't even matter!
https://www.hoganassessments.com/wp-...terp_Guide.pdf
Edited to add - my understanding is that UAL is using the HPI test and not currently using the HDS - aka the "dark side" exam.
#54
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 1
I just recently used a course for the United airlines selection process. I passed the hogan, and shortly after went to the interview but was given the ‘No’ due to an error within my private pilot log book carrying over hours into my electronic logbook. And also an admin error within my application that stated I had a 3.3 gpa in college but my transcript showed 3.0. I believe these 2 things set me back in the review board. My question to you all is have you heard of any pilots getting reselected for an invite after completing an interview prior to 12 months. If not what, in your opinion, would be the best course of action to possibly get UAL to shorten that time frame? Thanks in advanced
#55
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: Transition
Posts: 72
I just recently used a course for the United airlines selection process. I passed the hogan, and shortly after went to the interview but was given the ‘No’ due to an error within my private pilot log book carrying over hours into my electronic logbook. And also an admin error within my application that stated I had a 3.3 gpa in college but my transcript showed 3.0. I believe these 2 things set me back in the review board. My question to you all is have you heard of any pilots getting reselected for an invite after completing an interview prior to 12 months. If not what, in your opinion, would be the best course of action to possibly get UAL to shorten that time frame? Thanks in advanced
#56
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Joined APC: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,193
Here’s your Hogan prep…
Take a Valium, maybe have a cocktail on top of it in a quiet room with your computer. Wait ten minutes then take the test. Answer the questions honestly, and don’t take more than 3-5 seconds to answer.
PM me for payment info. I take Venmo, PayPal, cash app and Apple Pay.
Take a Valium, maybe have a cocktail on top of it in a quiet room with your computer. Wait ten minutes then take the test. Answer the questions honestly, and don’t take more than 3-5 seconds to answer.
PM me for payment info. I take Venmo, PayPal, cash app and Apple Pay.
#57
Sample from the test.
Would you rather fly an airplane or drive a semi truck.
If there was a fire would you rather save your grandmother or a kitten.
Would you rather fly an airplane or save grandma from a fire?
Would you rather fly an airplane or drive a semi truck.
If there was a fire would you rather save your grandmother or a kitten.
Would you rather fly an airplane or save grandma from a fire?
#58
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,280
no, these are not questions on the hogan. I’m not sure if you’re trying to be funny or trying to scare people? But nothing like this is on there.
#59
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 484
Thank you so much for your insightful advice!!
Yes, being truthful is one thing but being able to fit into HR's preset scale of results is another thing.
If they are looking for good leaders and great team players like a pilot's role - do I enjoy crowds? do I read deep into life? do I feel depressed often?
I can be the best pilot but what if I am introvert depressed and likes to ponder deep into life, sure being honest wouldnt get me the job!
And lastly, should I enjoy crowds? Haha, i keep seeing this question on many sample tests. What is this geared towards? I enjoy crowds at work but also like being alone when I am off duty. So if i add "at work" at the end of all questions, i should ENJOY crowds??? Since Hogan is more about your WORK personality not your MANCAVE personality right?
Yes, being truthful is one thing but being able to fit into HR's preset scale of results is another thing.
If they are looking for good leaders and great team players like a pilot's role - do I enjoy crowds? do I read deep into life? do I feel depressed often?
I can be the best pilot but what if I am introvert depressed and likes to ponder deep into life, sure being honest wouldnt get me the job!
And lastly, should I enjoy crowds? Haha, i keep seeing this question on many sample tests. What is this geared towards? I enjoy crowds at work but also like being alone when I am off duty. So if i add "at work" at the end of all questions, i should ENJOY crowds??? Since Hogan is more about your WORK personality not your MANCAVE personality right?
Here’s your Hogan prep…
Take a Valium, maybe have a cocktail on top of it in a quiet room with your computer. Wait ten minutes then take the test. Answer the questions honestly, and don’t take more than 3-5 seconds to answer.
PM me for payment info. I take Venmo, PayPal, cash app and Apple Pay.
Take a Valium, maybe have a cocktail on top of it in a quiet room with your computer. Wait ten minutes then take the test. Answer the questions honestly, and don’t take more than 3-5 seconds to answer.
PM me for payment info. I take Venmo, PayPal, cash app and Apple Pay.
#60
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Position: King Air 200 PIC
Posts: 56
Anyone know how long it takes to hear back from them after taking the personality assessment? I talked to guy while commuting who said he got the good news after two days, it’s been a week (5 business days) for me. Will they let me know one way or the other if I didn’t get it? Should I reach out to someone at some point? Thanks
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