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Itsajob 03-21-2020 08:09 AM

Schedule/fleet reductions
 
Any armchair quarterbacks have theories about how the fleet reductions, both UAL and UAX, will look for the next couple of months, and also as we pull out of this? Any ideas on the future of our fleet? When the max is available will we take deliveries, or postpone to conserve cash? What about express? Will the 50 seaters find renewed demand, or will they decide to park most of them and let the 70/76 seat jets handle the regional feed at a reduced schedule? We have over 300 of the 50 seat jets spread fairly evenly between the two models and they are getting tired.

My bag will fit 03-21-2020 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3006215)
Any armchair quarterbacks have theories about how the fleet reductions, both UAL and UAX, will look for the next couple of months, and also as we pull out of this? Any ideas on the future of our fleet? When the max is available will we take deliveries, or postpone to conserve cash? What about express? Will the 50 seaters find renewed demand, or will they decide to park most of them and let the 70/76 seat jets handle the regional feed at a reduced schedule? We have over 300 of the 50 seat jets spread fairly evenly between the two models and they are getting tired.

United will realize the great value of having 50 seat jets during economic downturns. Cheaper to fly a 200 or a 145 with 20 passengers than a 737/320. Will bring them all mainline, while firing all the Express pilots to prevent them from getting that dream legacy job. Mainline pilots will refuse to fly the older smaller jets, and United will go bankrupt. United will ask the government for another bailout as they try to figure out the problem.

O2pilot 03-21-2020 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3006215)
Any armchair quarterbacks have theories about how the fleet reductions, both UAL and UAX, will look for the next couple of months, and also as we pull out of this? Any ideas on the future of our fleet? When the max is available will we take deliveries, or postpone to conserve cash? What about express? Will the 50 seaters find renewed demand, or will they decide to park most of them and let the 70/76 seat jets handle the regional feed at a reduced schedule? We have over 300 of the 50 seat jets spread fairly evenly between the two models and they are getting tired.

I can’t imagine us taking any MAX planes. Because they are new the capital expenditure and debt loading to the balance sheet would be too much. I’m sure we have an out contractually with Boeing to not take them, and even if we don’t, we just won’t take them. It makes no sense to take new planes. My guess is with diminished loads, the 777s are toast. The 757s and 767s are fully paid off, have a very low cost per seat mile (especially 757-300), and despite them being older planes, they are the cheapest things we have going. I can see those staying around along with the Airbus and NG planes. The 787 is a no brainer, its going to be the new International everything. We just may not take new ones going forward.

89Pistons 03-21-2020 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3006215)
Any armchair quarterbacks have theories about how the fleet reductions, both UAL and UAX, will look for the next couple of months, and also as we pull out of this? Any ideas on the future of our fleet? When the max is available will we take deliveries, or postpone to conserve cash? What about express? Will the 50 seaters find renewed demand, or will they decide to park most of them and let the 70/76 seat jets handle the regional feed at a reduced schedule? We have over 300 of the 50 seat jets spread fairly evenly between the two models and they are getting tired.

That's an odd question coming from the guy or gal who made this comment just last week......


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2998208)
Pilots everywhere making predictions or ranting about things that they either have no control over, or no clue about.

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WaHo 03-21-2020 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by My bag will fit (Post 3006369)
United will realize the great value of having 50 seat jets during economic downturns. Cheaper to fly a 200 or a 145 with 20 passengers than a 737/320. Will bring them all mainline, while firing all the Express pilots to prevent them from getting that dream legacy job. Mainline pilots will refuse to fly the older smaller jets, and United will go bankrupt. United will ask the government for another bailout as they try to figure out the problem.

Holy cow that’s funny

Brainsurgeon 03-21-2020 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 3006562)
That's an odd question coming from the guy or gal who made this comment just last week......



I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

Brainsurgeon 03-21-2020 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by My bag will fit (Post 3006369)
United will realize the great value of having 50 seat jets during economic downturns. Cheaper to fly a 200 or a 145 with 20 passengers than a 737/320. Will bring them all mainline, while firing all the Express pilots to prevent them from getting that dream legacy job. Mainline pilots will refuse to fly the older smaller jets, and United will go bankrupt. United will ask the government for another bailout as they try to figure out the problem.

That is freaking funny. Well done.

CLazarus 03-21-2020 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 3006562)
That's an odd question coming from the guy or gal who made this comment just last week......

Nice catch! I have my guesses about what we might do, which are little better than that. But it is generally not worth the time posting them because rather than someone pointing out what I may not have considered... someone inevitably chimes in with a put down more than a point. Kind of takes the fun out of a conversation to have to be on guard.

Fleet moves that reduce the number of jobs at Express and grow mainline instead sound mostly good to me.

Andy 03-21-2020 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by CLazarus (Post 3006638)
Fleet moves that reduce the number of jobs at Express and grow mainline instead sound mostly good to me.

In addition to mainline aircraft being put into temporary storage, there are also RJs going into storage so this is also going to impact the regionals.

JoePatroni 03-21-2020 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by CLazarus (Post 3006638)
....on guard.

YOU’RE ON GUARD!!!!!! Couldn’t resist....(cat noise)


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