E-SRL and Commuting
04-01-2020 | 04:50 PM
#11
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I'd never tell someone else how to bid. And in this case I'm not even sure it wouldn't constitute an illegal job action, so let's not go there. However, it is my belief that if a sufficient number of people choose reserve, the company will choose to offer traditional SRLs. I believe this will happen, and it will once again delay our bid close and award dates. I can say that for my situation, as a reserve commuter, it makes more sense to simply sit reserve than accept an E-SRL.
04-01-2020 | 07:20 PM
#12
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I'd never tell someone else how to bid. And in this case I'm not even sure it wouldn't constitute an illegal job action, so let's not go there. However, it is my belief that if a sufficient number of people choose reserve, the company will choose to offer traditional SRLs. I believe this will happen, and it will once again delay our bid close and award dates. I can say that for my situation, as a reserve commuter, it makes more sense to simply sit reserve than accept an E-SRL.
- 02 Apr eSRL/eCOLA/Empty Line inventory estimates by Category published
- 04 Apr
- End of Day - Pairings Published to CCS
- 0700CT eSRL/eCOLA/Empty Line Round 1 Bid Close
- 06 Apr
- 1700CT eSRL/eCOLA/Empty Line Round 1 Award publish
- 1700CT PBS Bid Window Opens
- 1700CT eSRL/eCOLA/Empty Line for May Round 2 Bids Open
- 07 Apr 1700CT eSRL/eCOLA/Empty Line inventory estimates by Category published
- 08 Apr 1200CT eSRL/eCOLA/Empty Line Round 2 Bid Close
- 09 Apr 1700CT eSRL/eCOLA/Empty Line Round 2 award publish
- 10 Apr
- 1400CT 20-B-4 Absence Data Cutoff
- 1600CT Final PBS Parameter and G Line Document Published
- 12 Apr 1000CT PBS Bid Window Closes
- 15 Apr 2359CT All CA PBS Awards Published
- 17 Apr 2359CT All FO Awards Published
- 18 Apr 1000CT PBS Award/Dispute Windows Open
- 23 Apr 1000CT PBS Award/Dispute
04-01-2020 | 08:45 PM
#13
Get me outta here...
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From: Boeing right seat
I'm not surprised. This is a very dynamic situation and the company is going to re-evaluate after the first deadline closes. I'd be shocked if a group of corporate professionals trying to get through this didn't do just that.
I emailed Paul Carlson shortly after the EWR Town Hall about a related issues, and he wrote me back within an hour and said this would happen. Completely expected and planned.
I emailed Paul Carlson shortly after the EWR Town Hall about a related issues, and he wrote me back within an hour and said this would happen. Completely expected and planned.
04-01-2020 | 09:36 PM
#14
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I’ll be on reserve before I take an ESRL line. Hard to justify a free loan with high risk of bankruptcy and not getting that pay with out some sort of risk/reward given considering our UPA offers SRL at 50 hours.
this was a total failure of the union...and unanimously approved.
Im not sure if things are way worse than we believe (in that case get paid everything you can considering the .gov is paying for it) or we are getting duped by both the company and the union. Sure...it’s voluntary but why agree to such pathetic offerings).
consider pretty much all of us don’t qualify for the .gov stimulus checks, this is essentially our stimulus money. And we are the higher tax paying individuals. Most of us paid more in taxes last year than the average worker earns.
this was a total failure of the union...and unanimously approved.
Im not sure if things are way worse than we believe (in that case get paid everything you can considering the .gov is paying for it) or we are getting duped by both the company and the union. Sure...it’s voluntary but why agree to such pathetic offerings).
consider pretty much all of us don’t qualify for the .gov stimulus checks, this is essentially our stimulus money. And we are the higher tax paying individuals. Most of us paid more in taxes last year than the average worker earns.
04-01-2020 | 09:37 PM
#15
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From: Guppy Capt
So the company doesn’t meet their SRL goal for April and then they make the eSRL offer for May worse?!? I don’t get that tactic. I was looking forward to taking May off, but not under the current offered conditions. Pay in December... this company has made way too many future promises that they have welched on. No thanks!!!
04-02-2020 | 07:40 AM
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So the company doesn’t meet their SRL goal for April and then they make the eSRL offer for May worse?!? I don’t get that tactic. I was looking forward to taking May off, but not under the current offered conditions. Pay in December... this company has made way too many future promises that they have welched on. No thanks!!!
i just don’t understand the logic behind this. So a few people chose the ESRL options and now the company is going to pay thousands to sit around on reserve for 73 hours v.s. 50 for an SRL with govt money.
Ok then I’ll get 23 more hours pay for May to sit at home and if I get called for FSB or short call I’ll tell them I can’t and file a pdr let them know I’m not violating cdc guidelines to go to the epicenter of the pandemic in New York and sit in some hotel or crash pad.
the union really should be addressing this instead of leaving us to fend for ourselves.
not impressed rite now w ALPA
write to your reps that this is unsat!
04-02-2020 | 08:25 AM
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tell them I can’t and file a pdr let them know I’m not violating cdc guidelines to go to the epicenter of the pandemic in New York and sit in some hotel or crash pad.
the union really should be addressing this instead of leaving us to fend for ourselves...
write to your reps that this is unsat!
the union really should be addressing this instead of leaving us to fend for ourselves...
write to your reps that this is unsat!
Crickets.
They should completely do away with FSB at this point, and offer a bit of bonus pay for local non-commuters to volunteer for SC, which they could do from the safety of home, while ensuring operations continuity.
04-02-2020 | 08:26 AM
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From: The GF of FUPM
While I am thoroughly discouraged by the E-SRL debacle, I am quite pleased with the way the union has inadvertently rallied the troops. Talk about unintended consequences.
SRL used to pay 60 when the company was in far worse shape. Yet in the new (current) contract suddenly they're only 50. Can you spell concession? This, of course, one of many in the current CBA. And all of a sudden WE are loaning them our money till some magical date in the future when they may find some way to avoid payment or pay us less? Even though Uncle Sam is ponying up for salaries and cheap loans? Stinks.
Pitchforks, gentlemen.
SRL used to pay 60 when the company was in far worse shape. Yet in the new (current) contract suddenly they're only 50. Can you spell concession? This, of course, one of many in the current CBA. And all of a sudden WE are loaning them our money till some magical date in the future when they may find some way to avoid payment or pay us less? Even though Uncle Sam is ponying up for salaries and cheap loans? Stinks.
Pitchforks, gentlemen.
04-02-2020 | 08:45 AM
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From: Guppy Capt
04-02-2020 | 08:58 AM
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Did just this recently. Sent a PDR asking them to work on the FSB and SC nonsense, as it poses a grave danger to our health and safety. I also mentioned relief for commuters, as most of our commute options have vaporized.
Crickets.
They should completely do away with FSB at this point, and offer a bit of bonus pay for local non-commuters to volunteer for SC, which they could do from the safety of home, while ensuring operations continuity.
Crickets.
They should completely do away with FSB at this point, and offer a bit of bonus pay for local non-commuters to volunteer for SC, which they could do from the safety of home, while ensuring operations continuity.
Have you been to the airports? It’s probably the safest place to be. There is nobody there. Suck it up. If you don’t want reserve bid an esrl.
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