May - eSRL Round 2
04-07-2020 | 03:58 PM
#41
Slam-Clicka
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Speaking for me personally, if I’m unfortunate enough to lose my job through a furlough. I want to know that I’ll eventually come back to a contract that’s worth coming back to. I’m not willing to gut our UPA to “save” my job from going away. I’ll entertain shared pain in reduced line values to save jobs, but hourly cuts or rig tampering is a solid no from me. I believe discussions should be very narrow in scope and have a realistic “snap back” timetable associated with it. Just my 2 cents...
04-07-2020 | 04:07 PM
#42
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From: guppy CA
I'm surprised you didn't throw in the old 'don't negotiate in public' garbage in your response.
Speaking for me personally, if I’m unfortunate enough to lose my job through a furlough. I want to know that I’ll eventually come back to a contract that’s worth coming back to. I’m not willing to gut our UPA to “save” my job from going away. I’ll entertain shared pain in reduced line values to save jobs, but hourly cuts or rig tampering is a solid no from me. I believe discussions should be very narrow in scope and have a realistic “snap back” timetable associated with it. Just my 2 cents...
04-07-2020 | 04:42 PM
#43
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You look like a nail
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Wanna link to the post where I asked YOU for a proposal? I was interested in hearing what a user was trying to say, but couldn't for whatever reason.
You did invite users to critique your suggestion and what I see as a giveaway, and now you're trying to walk it back? Whatever dude, keep on flailing. Don't get butthurt when you pull numbers outta your ass and someone calls you on it.
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04-07-2020 | 04:51 PM
#44
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From: guppy CA
Wanna link to the post where I asked YOU for a proposal? I was interested in hearing what a user was trying to say, but couldn't for whatever reason.
You did invite users to critique your suggestion and what I see as a giveaway, and now you're trying to walk it back? Whatever dude, keep on flailing. Don't get butthurt when you pull numbers outta your ass and have someone calls you on it.
You did invite users to critique your suggestion and what I see as a giveaway, and now you're trying to walk it back? Whatever dude, keep on flailing. Don't get butthurt when you pull numbers outta your ass and have someone calls you on it.
You post on a forum. That's an invite for everyone.
I made it clear that I didn't want to cut pay. I never mentioned crap about rigs until you asked and I stated no way should we give anything away there.
You have a lot of complaints about what I wrote. What's YOUR proposal? Yes, I'm directly asking you since you seem to want to hear what someone else has to say on the matter.
04-07-2020 | 05:08 PM
#45
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CCS has the targets posted for round 2. It turned out to be a flop. There are hardly any takers. SFO 777 captain target is 103, with 1 bidder, Fo target is 243 with 0 bidders. Looks like they will be coming out with round 3, or they will have a ton of people on reserve.
04-07-2020 | 05:23 PM
#46
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You look like a nail
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Actually, it's not. But since you're running headfirst to throw concessions at the company, what can I say to stop you?
I simply pointed out that that your ideas aren't thought all the way through. In your example, the unintended consequence would harm rigs. I believe you when you say that you don't want to give rigs away, neither do I. I also have at least 3 posts in this thread about letting the NC do their job. I'm good with that.
I made it clear that I didn't want to cut pay. I never mentioned crap about rigs until you asked and I stated no way should we give anything away there.
≈You have a lot of complaints about what I wrote. What's YOUR proposal? Yes, I'm directly asking you since you seem to want to hear what someone else has to say on the matter.
≈You have a lot of complaints about what I wrote. What's YOUR proposal? Yes, I'm directly asking you since you seem to want to hear what someone else has to say on the matter.
04-07-2020 | 06:03 PM
#47
On Reserve
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Sweeten the deal baby....55 hrs for 4 months, yes please.
04-07-2020 | 08:39 PM
#48
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From: B-737 Captain
Yeah, but .. One trip, one layover to a hot spot, a careless hotel room keeper at the layover hotel, an asymptomatic check in clerk, et alia. What value do you place on your health and your families health? I'm not sure I could live with myself going forward if, through my desire for an extra 10 hours, I brought home COVID to my family. My loyalty is to my family, not United Airlines. I, personally, would rather shelter in place for an additional month (May) and give the pandemic some extra time to simmer down. Guess that's why the options are voluntary. The fact that we are given an option to stay home and yet still receive partial pay as well as full benefits in lieu of a Leave of Absence is a blessing.
04-08-2020 | 04:11 AM
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