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04-08-2020 | 11:02 AM

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JoePatroni

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Originally Posted by Thor

The full FAA certified landings course includes V1 cuts, single engine approaches and go arounds, and 40 knot crosswinds landings. Should we do those in the airplane too?

I did my entire airplane training in the airplane for the 1900, it’s doable.

04-08-2020 | 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BMEP100

Maybe stop doing landings class the United way. Instead, just form a line outside the sim. Visual approach. land..freeze. repo..3 times...NEXT. done in 5 minutes.

Mass debrief over cold ones ,Shuttle to DEN, go home.

It will take a little longer than that. 121.439 requires three takeoffs and landings to maintain currency, not just landings. And to regain currency once you expire, requires a V1 cut, ILS to minimums, and a full stop landing. More details in the reg if you are interested.

04-08-2020 | 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JoePatroni

I did my entire airplane training in the airplane for the 1900, it’s doable.

I don't think it is dooale today.

what continental express did on the cheap won't be repeated again. Remember the Beaumont training crash?

Our simulator instructors aren't cross-qualified as PIC's. They are SIC's. Also, when someone goes under the hood, we need safety pilots. It's allot of liability and likely the instructor council for ALPA would freak-out. This would be beyond their scope of work in the cba. Then you gotta get the FAA to sign off on it. Lots of risk, and liability. Some risk analysis six sigma folks would need to study this. What went down at COEX wasn't cool. Maybe OK for a 135 non sked operator.

04-08-2020 | 12:52 PM

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BMEP100

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Originally Posted by Duckdude

The V1 cut can be done on one of the three takeoffs.Clean up..no check,list. Repo..2 eng ils from just outside marker. Done it many times.

04-08-2020 | 12:53 PM

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This was long before the RJ days, not that it matters now.

04-08-2020 | 02:29 PM

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Really??? At a time when we’re trying to protect cash, you think that they’ll take an airplane that is parked and go blow $100 bills out of the back of the engines? A sim is vastly more inexpensive and I seriously doubt that the L/D curves ever intersect regarding this.

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I’ll take things United will never do for 500, Alex.

Don't be so sure. They are certainly looking at this in GUM, according to a CP update. It is very expensive and time consuming to fly dudes 6600 miles through Tokyo to go do landings. Usually not a factor at a 737 base, but extraordinary times may call for bat sh.. crazy measures.

04-08-2020 | 03:41 PM

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This was long before the RJ days, not that it matters now.

IT was an RJ that crashed so I think it would be in the RJ days. A month prior to that crash, I was in an ATR-42 doing single engine work out of KEFD.

04-08-2020 | 06:02 PM

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IT was an RJ that crashed so I think it would be in the RJ days. A month prior to that crash, I was in an ATR-42 doing single engine work out of KEFD.

I'm talking about my BE-1900 training in 1989. TWA used to bring an L-1011 to BGR and do touch and goes for hours.

04-08-2020 | 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BMEP100

it’s more complicated than that. LDRQ is Landings REQUAL since it is a requal it falls under AQP. AQP is in line with what the FARs require and is agreed to by the FAA. Could they wave it? Sure they do for instructors.

When CQ turns back on in May there will be plenty of pilots in every fleet coming out every two days legal for another 3 months. What they need to do is end all QUAL training and ONLY run CQ.

just on the 787 alone they could have 225 crews ready to go for another three months by the end of May. They could 375 crews on the 756 if you get rid of the 764 touch.

04-08-2020 | 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor

Of course, you Air Force guys never miss an opportunity to tell the world how cool you are.

Looking forward to the summer, I think most guys will be fine with or without simulator currency if they lapse by a month or two.

There are probably some A/F pilots that do need to tell the world how cool they are; otherwise how would we ever know? Big shout out to some of our under appreciated Eagle drivers that might fall in that category.

This is NOT the case with the U2 pilots!
Why? We all know the U2 is cool.

U-2 spy plane landing at Beale AFB U2 raw video

I never landed the U2, but I have landed the Guppy enough times to decline any voluntary extension of my lapsed landings for free...

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