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jcool734 05-21-2020 08:37 PM

Future of Aviate
 
Does anyone have any insight I remember this program was huge before COVID-19. What is the status of it now?

LeeFXDWG 05-21-2020 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by jcool734 (Post 3061597)
Does anyone have any insight I remember this program was huge before COVID-19. What is the status of it now?

Given the fact furloughs are likely in the near future, I would say Aviate will be put into stasis. We have a LOA that mandates any hiring at Express has to be offered to UAL furloughs. I just don’t see the need for Aviate at the present.

Lee

jcool734 05-21-2020 08:56 PM

Wait so the LOA with UAL and there commuters they have to be offered positions at regionals. I didnt know flowbacks were a thing at united, let alone anywhere else.

HuggyU2 05-21-2020 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 3061601)
We have a LOA that mandates any hiring at Express has to be offered to UAL furloughs.

Wait.
So you're saying this isn't in the original UPA?
And instead of waiting for a completely new contract, we were able to craft out an LOA that us and the company were able to negotiate a win-win on?

Very interesting.

LeeFXDWG 05-21-2020 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 3061610)
Wait.
So you're saying this isn't in the original UPA?
And instead of waiting for a completely new contract, we were able to craft out an LOA that us and the company were able to negotiate a win-win on?

Very interesting.

Its LOA 12-09 and it’s a carry over from the LUAL contract. There are a number of similar examples. Your point was what exactly? This LOA was there when the contract was ratified by the members.

Lee

LeeFXDWG 05-21-2020 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by jcool734 (Post 3061605)
Wait so the LOA with UAL and there commuters they have to be offered positions at regionals. I didnt know flowbacks were a thing at united, let alone anywhere else.

Not a flowback. The carrier in question has to be hiring. UA furloughs get first dibs on those positions.

Lee

HuggyU2 05-21-2020 09:42 PM

Good info, Lee. Thanks. I was under the impression that LOA's were something added to an existing contract.

Although ratified to the current contract, I figured the LOA mentioned might have been an addendum to a previous L-UAL contract, but it guess I have that wrong. Thank you for the clarification.

Thor 05-21-2020 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by jcool734 (Post 3061597)
Does anyone have any insight I remember this program was huge before COVID-19. What is the status of it now?

Why not ask Bebe directly? https://unitedaviate.com/contact

SystemB 05-22-2020 01:11 AM

According to the LOA, a certain number of initial offers of employment to furloughed UAL pilots are made regardless whether the express carriers are in “hiring mode“. They have to hire a certain number per airframe.
Also, when hired on this way, you’re on 2nd year pay, UAL making up the difference.

drywhitetoast 05-22-2020 04:15 AM

Been changed to Bloviate.


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