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Andy 07-22-2020 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by bigfatdaddy (Post 3097223)
Nailed it!...............like Andy said previously.......no leaders here

They're few and far between on both sides. I couldn't pick out a single one off the top of my head. Very, very few rise in the political ranks without a decent amount of dirt hidden away.

Huell 07-22-2020 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3097277)
I'm just a bit short or I'd be all over it. Helluva deal for 62+

I agree. Some guys worried over BK .... I would rather be out as long as it last rather than be on the property for another BK and all the crap that goes with it. I think UAL will be ok if things come back next spring.

Hoping for the best for everyone.

Andy 07-22-2020 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Huell (Post 3097281)
I agree. Some guys worried over BK .... I would rather be out as long as it last rather than be on the property for another BK and all the crap that goes with it. I think UAL will be ok if things come back next spring.

Hoping for the best for everyone.

I am having my doubts on next spring.

Too many people are too scared of COVID. Here's a CDC graph that shows how much the mortality numbers have declined. Don't let the media see it; someone might actually try to spread some positive news on the virus.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c....htm#AgeAndSex

And of course if you're under 65, your odds of mortality decline significantly.

Vernon Demerest 07-22-2020 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3097172)
They're both corrupt clowns. There are no leaders running in 2020.

You're almost out the door anyway so none of it is going affect you.


Well I have over 20 years left and this does affect me and I seem to recall those “Dems” as being the voices that ensured that the bailout money received be tied to jobs preserved until October 1st. Please don’t go down the fear mongering mode of the bad Democrat’s this and that as it relates to the industry because it simply isn’t true.

CALFO 07-22-2020 04:51 PM

Everything else aside, here is how the industry has looked over the course of my career:

Clinton : Huge contractual gains And movement
Bush: massive pay cuts, furloughs
Obama: Airline stability, new contracts, lots of movement.
Trump: lots of movement followed by massive furloughs and potential bankruptcies.

Dems= 1 step forward
Republican = 2step back

tkt96 07-22-2020 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 3097324)
Everything else aside, here is how the industry has looked over the course of my career:

Clinton : Huge contractual gains And movement
Bush: massive pay cuts, furloughs
Obama: Airline stability, new contracts, lots of movement.
Trump: lots of movement followed by massive furloughs and potential bankruptcies.

Dems= 1 step forward
Republican = 2step back

yeah but at least America is great again

Andy 07-22-2020 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 3097324)
Everything else aside, here is how the industry has looked over the course of my career:

Clinton : Huge contractual gains And movement
Bush: massive pay cuts, furloughs
Obama: Airline stability, new contracts, lots of movement.
Trump: lots of movement followed by massive furloughs and potential bankruptcies.

Dems= 1 step forward
Republican = 2step back

Sooo, you want to blame 9/11 and COVID on whomever was in office?
Who was the POTUS that stopped the American Airlines pilots' strike?
(I won't bother poking any more holes in that silliness)

Andy 07-22-2020 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3097290)
Well I have over 20 years left and this does affect me and I seem to recall those “Dems” as being the voices that ensured that the bailout money received be tied to jobs preserved until October 1st. Please don’t go down the fear mongering mode of the bad Democrat’s this and that as it relates to the industry because it simply isn’t true.

Really? It was a bipartisan spendfest.
In case you weren't aware, the House is controlled by the Ds. The Senate and WH are controlled by the Rs.
The legislation needed to be approved by all 3. It wasn't going to get passed if not for both sides supporting it.

Vox isn't exactly right leaning and they cite Senate Ds holding up passage of the CARES act, so I don't know where you got the idea that the Ds were the tip of the spear on this. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...onavirus-fails

Andy 07-22-2020 05:23 PM

I'll toss out this silver lining. Many foreign carriers are deeply wounded from this. Once international travel opens up, United could do very well on international travel.

Huell 07-22-2020 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by tkt96 (Post 3097329)
yeah but at least America is great again

Be careful ... I posted that in Russian awhile back and got an infraction. :eek:


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