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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 3097419)
So no one actually wants to discuss earnings? Only political BS?
And if the Ds decide to cut off 'corporate welfare' and stop sending free money to people who get paid >$100K/yr to do nothing thanks to CARES, things get fugly very fast. What my liberal friends don't seem to understand is that we have a huge target on our backs with the Ds due to the concept of corporate welfare and our salaries. Give Ds full control of government (both houses and POTUS) and they may decide that maximum monthly wage payment via CARES money is $5K/mo. Neither political party are pilots' friends. Political status quo is best for those of us in the airline industry at this turbulent time. |
Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 3098236)
I don't drink enough to talk about how bad those earnings were and look for the foreseeable future. It's less painful to discuss politics.
And if the Ds decide to cut off 'corporate welfare' and stop sending free money to people who get paid >$100K/yr to do nothing thanks to CARES, things get fugly very fast. What my liberal friends don't seem to understand is that we have a huge target on our backs with the Ds due to the concept of corporate welfare and our salaries. Give Ds full control of government (both houses and POTUS) and they may decide that maximum monthly wage payment via CARES money is $5K/mo. Neither political party are pilots' friends. Political status quo is best for those of us in the airline industry at this turbulent time. |
Originally Posted by TooMuchTAFB
(Post 3097866)
It’s not the events that can be blamed on these “leaders,” it’s their response. 9/11: bungled. COVID: I squarely blame a lack of leadership on our slow recovery. Demand was rising, until we lost control of the spread because dimwit got bored with dealing with it, and left the response up to everyone else. He is most definitely at fault for where we are now, and where we will be this fall.
What you want is an extremely strong federal government - the kind that creates dictatorships. Fortunately, people much smarter than you or I recognized that one doesn't want too strong a federal government so quite a bit of the decision making that you are wailing about is the responsibility of each state governor. |
Originally Posted by RJDio
(Post 3098242)
I think you hit the nail on the head with the targets on our backs. A little indirect example is most of us didn’t qualify for the stimulus check. Somehow it was dire for the economy, except for us high income earners according to both parties.
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Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 3098244)
It's truly sad that there are so many people like you who have zero concept of what falls under the purview of federal government and what falls under the purview of state government.
What you want is an extremely strong federal government - the kind that creates dictatorships. Fortunately, people much smarter than you or I recognized that one doesn't want too strong a federal government so quite a bit of the decision making that you are wailing about is the responsibility of each state governor. |
Originally Posted by Huell
(Post 3098192)
LOL ... I JUST retired. I don't post on every thread under every airline ... Over generalization much?
I spend very little time here ... Having coffee now then on to the projects planned for today ... When I come in to cool off I will probably be back. Off to the lake for the weekend ... so you will be safe for a few days. I hope you have a blessed day. |
Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 3098236)
I don't drink enough to talk about how bad those earnings were and look for the foreseeable future. It's less painful to discuss politics.
And if the Ds decide to cut off 'corporate welfare' and stop sending free money to people who get paid >$100K/yr to do nothing thanks to CARES, things get fugly very fast. What my liberal friends don't seem to understand is that we have a huge target on our backs with the Ds due to the concept of corporate welfare and our salaries. Give Ds full control of government (both houses and POTUS) and they may decide that maximum monthly wage payment via CARES money is $5K/mo. Neither political party are pilots' friends. Political status quo is best for those of us in the airline industry at this turbulent time. You do understand that high income earners like airline pilots are not really the wealthy demographic that the R's are looking out for right? We make good money, but we're not WEALTHY as a result of this career. Think of yourself as expensive gum on the sole of their shoes. |
Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 3098244)
It's truly sad that there are so many people like you who have zero concept of what falls under the purview of federal government and what falls under the purview of state government.
What you want is an extremely strong federal government - the kind that creates dictatorships. Fortunately, people much smarter than you or I recognized that one doesn't want too strong a federal government so quite a bit of the decision making that you are wailing about is the responsibility of each state governor. |
Originally Posted by AxlF16
(Post 3098389)
There wasn't a carveout for high income earners in the first CARES bill. Do you contend that the Democratic leadership wanted to limit high income earners while the Republican leadership wanted no limits on high income earners? My understanding is that in general the D's were for the grants and the R's were against the grants.
You do understand that high income earners like airline pilots are not really the wealthy demographic that the R's are looking out for right? We make good money, but we're not WEALTHY as a result of this career. Think of yourself as expensive gum on the sole of their shoes. As for your second paragraph, reread my second to last sentence one more time because you don't seem to 'get it'. Here it is: Neither political party are pilots' friends. |
Targets on our back? Ha! The bottom line is the best contracts of our careers came under Clinton and Obama. Period. Dot. Even the extension. And their stock market runs? BOOM. $$$$. The furloughs, concessionary contracts, and market contractions have all come when we elect the “Conservative” party. Lol. (This year’s 4T deficit will make Obama look thrifty). I’m sure it’s all a coincidence, but the evidence is overwhelming. Don’t worry Dio, you’ll get that stripe back under Biden. 😎
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