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Vernon Demerest 07-24-2020 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 3098449)
My best earning years have been under Trump. Neither your point or mine are indicative of anything without further context.

I’m sure an administration whose anti-white, anti-middle class, anti-carbon is gonna do wonders for our careers.

As to the 4th stripe, still wearing it. For how long? Who knows. Not too concerned about it. I’ve yet to turn 35. I’m sure I’ll be alright in the long run.

Wow! At United? That’s the age I first got my 4th stripe (at United, 23 at the commuter) and that was considered “lucky”. Hopefully if you lose it the duration won’t be too long.

CALFO 07-24-2020 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3098230)
Here's the problem. Depending on your political POV, one can spin it any way they like.
Prior to COVID, no one was making silly statements that Trump was trashing our industry or our wages. In fact, the last four years prior to COVID have been THE BEST of my flying career. And it was the same with yours - you are being dishonest if you say that things weren't the best you'd seen pre-COVID.

MY concern with a change of parties in the White House is that the new occupants like to blame everything bad that's happening on the last occupant AND they try to get the financial pain out of the way early in their term of office. That allows them to:
1) have a better economy when they're up for reelection, and
2) blame all the bad stuff on the last guy.
This isn't anything new; it happens just about every time there's a change of party in the White House.
If there were a D POTUS right now, I'd be worried if an R took over in Jan 2021 because they run the exact same playbook.
I want no change to status quo as far as balance of power goes.

my point is that when I read fear-mongering of what a Dem President will mean for our careers, it just doesn’t pan out. If you liked the past four years the you should realize that Your good fortune is a combination of growth, seniority movement and a good contract.

The seniority movement is the result of age 65 finally catching up (changes from age 60 under Bush),

the growth was the result of a successful company executing its business plan. That plan was formed and in effect before Trump took office (think massive 737, 787 orders and deliveries AND 777-300 orders)

Finally, our current contract was signed while a Dem was in office. Have we seen a new contract under Trump? Nope.

so, stop being afraid, crack a cold one and make a change in November.

AxlF16 07-24-2020 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3098455)
Wow! At United? That’s the age I first got my 4th stripe (at United, 23 at the commuter) and that was considered “lucky”. Hopefully if you lose it the duration won’t be too long.

Hopefully long enough for him to get a clue.

Chuck D 07-24-2020 01:26 PM

no he's totally right. my worst income years were as a regional FO at $20-something an hour. therefore that president was the worst.

QED

AxlF16 07-24-2020 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 3098458)
no he's totally right. my worst income years were as a regional FO at $20-something an hour. therefore that president was the worst.

QED

I guess lack of critical thought and lack of understanding of complex ideas is all the rage. It's almost as if one has to purposely ignore reality to reach some conclusions I see here.

Laminar 07-24-2020 01:36 PM

Sounds like he is going to lose the most as well. Ca to fo due to trump botching the response

RJDio 07-24-2020 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3098457)
Hopefully long enough for him to get a clue.

I see we’re very threatened by diverging ideas.
But at least it exposed your character. When I disagree with someone ideologically I don’t wish misfortune upon them. But apparently you do. Classy.

AxlF16 07-24-2020 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 3098514)
I see we’re very threatened by diverging ideas.
But at least it exposed your character. When I disagree with someone ideologically I don’t wish misfortune upon them. But apparently you do. Classy.

Your attitude and misinformed beliefs will bring misfortune upon us all. Sometimes you need to touch the hot stove to learn.

RJDio 07-24-2020 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3098455)
Wow! At United? That’s the age I first got my 4th stripe (at United, 23 at the commuter) and that was considered “lucky”. Hopefully if you lose it the duration won’t be too long.

Thanks for the support. We’re all in this together. And for the record I consider myself extremely lucky.

RJDio 07-24-2020 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3098518)
Your attitude and misinformed beliefs will bring misfortune upon us all. Sometimes you need to touch the hot stove to learn.

I’m sure if we’ve sat down to compared upbringings and life/work experience you’d come away with having a charmed life. Being poor and seeing the system first hand gives someone a little perspective. But keep preaching 👍🏻


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