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Old 08-10-2020 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Yep!
Of course something beside ‘ oh our contract sucks’ or ‘is the schedule 7/7 or 8/6’ certainly out of place on this board!
It’s called comic relief my friend.
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Old 08-10-2020 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Yep!
Of course something beside ‘ oh our contract sucks’ or ‘is the schedule 7/7 or 8/6’ certainly out of place on this board!
​​​​​​We appreciate it. 19L KICT? Test pilots on the CE-525C managed to get a don't arm until the needle moves limitation on that airplane by botching it in front of the feds.

At least according to legend.

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Old 08-10-2020 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
If anyone is truly interested......
Stopped reading after that.
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Old 08-10-2020 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
Stopped reading after that.
That’s OK ReadOnly.
The pilot shortage and automated cockpit angle is much more interesting anyways :-)

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KICT 19L has no restrictions on the facility.
Works fine.
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Old 08-10-2020 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
That’s OK ReadOnly.
The pilot shortage and automated cockpit angle is much more interesting anyways :-).
The actual AVIATION threads aren’t why people come to these forums. We want to argue about the merits of feminine sports cars and spout off about epidemiology.
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Old 08-10-2020 | 07:17 PM
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Default Pilot shortage?

There is no shortage....

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Old 08-11-2020 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
The actual AVIATION threads aren’t why people come to these forums. We want to argue about the merits of feminine sports cars and spout off about epidemiology.
You are on spot with that!
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Old 08-11-2020 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Flugkapitan
I keep seeing the automation topic come up. I think most folks don't realize that the lunar lander, with Neil Armstrong, operated one of the first autopilots using essentially similar logic as modern automation (and, or, nor, etc.) It is also a well known example of an autopilot becoming incapable of execution--Neil manually overrode the autopilot and landed. The attempts to make flying automated go back at least that far. Computers are really good at "learning" repetitive tasks given enough iterations to perform it at an acceptable tiny margin of error. However, when one factors in those pesky non-normal events of low occurrence, the computer is going to fail in those scenarios at a rate of 100%--only the human brain at this point has the ability to think outside the box when something different happens. I think of examples including UA 232 where it was "impossible" to loose all hydraulics, US Air 1549 with CA Sullenberger and WN 1380 CA Shults. How steep is that autopilot going to execute an emergency descent with its "default" response? Maybe I don't want an ultra rapid descent because there is a hole the size of Aloha Airlines 243 and the rest of the plane could break up...

$h!t happens...passengers want human pilots to deal with it.
The passenger issues will be sorted out as self driving Trucks, then cars take over. People will see that they are safe and then be conditioned into feeling safe on planes too. They already believe these things fly themselves (they don’t) because some pilots have been saying it for years. $35 Billion reasons why it will happen. https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/07/tec...ers/index.html
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Old 08-11-2020 | 07:50 AM
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USMCflyer:

This diagram shows the multiple glideslopes that are normally generated. I also found technical discussions that said “false courses” are also normally generated by the localizer. As I remember from USAF instrument courses, these false courses are attenuated by shielding the transmitter antenna to favor propagation only towards the service volume. As mentioned earlier, snow drifts can bend these signals by reflection.

I thought the Air Force Instrument Manual at one time showed these multiple “localizer beams.” I thought they were at predictable angles/degrees from the main beam, just like the false glideslopes.

Do I have that right?
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Old 08-11-2020 | 09:26 AM
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USMCflyer:

This diagram shows the multiple glideslopes that are normally generated. I also found technical discussions that said “false courses” are also normally generated by the localizer. As I remember from USAF instrument courses, these false courses are attenuated by shielding the transmitter antenna to favor propagation only towards the service volume. As mentioned earlier, snow drifts can bend these signals by reflection.

I thought the Air Force Instrument Manual at one time showed these multiple “localizer beams.” I thought they were at predictable angles/degrees from the main beam, just like the false glideslopes.

Do I have that right?
Yes and no. The localizer array does not generate a truly reversed null. Each antenna pair, individually could do that, but not across the array. Clearance tolerances are applied by us to preclude a false turn on.
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