Exit poll
 

Let's do a quick APC exit poll.

I voted yes.

Please, no discussion/debate here.

Mods maybe sticky it?

Would be nice to see the polling at the top, but I think the only way to keep it as the first thread is by commenting.

Sorry... but with voting ongoing, I won't participate in a poll.

Too bad my $6000/yr in dues couldn't have afforded a poll 6 months ago. Then again, would it have mattered? Carry on lads.

Btw, agree with Huggy.

Thank you for letting everyone know you won't participate in the poll.

There’s a lot more junior people on this forum than the other forums and this poll reflects it. Guys I am flying with are a solid no. Oh well, if it passes, will be another ten years of crap.

Only way to know that is to sound off:

MIDDLE here.

They are probably a NO to get you to go back to reading your magazine. If you talk as much as you do here I’d say I’m a NO too just to change the conversation.

Would that be middle with a pay protected seat for better perspective?

I would guess that or middle lower

Yes. Until they send me to the likely imminent one day of training required to get me back to NB reserve at 14 days of pay. I know, I know.....fleecing the system in an appalling fashion!

What if people who don’t work there vote?

they already have ...an AA pilot and a Mesa pilot are solid NOs.

That's not cool, but this is just an informal poll.

It will skew this poll. The key to getting good statistics is a large representative sample. Hypothetically if someone outside the pilot group votes in this poll, but the sample size is large enough, it'll be irrelevant.

So the above data could be accurate, but it might just be the small sample so far. I'm going to make a bold statement and say the current roughly 63% yes to about 37% no is going to be within 5% of the actual results. As other posters have pointed out, if you're going to be a miserable person to fly with especially if they hold a different opinion on which way to vote, you might not get an accurate reply- they'll tell you whatever you want to hear so the trip isn't completely awful.

This crisis is different than 9/11 and the great recession, and I think pilots in the middle of the pack should be worried about getting furloughed too.

The knuckle heads from other airlines probably didn’t realize we can see who voted for what... Al, Fetty, Cacti to name a few.

I just asked Al on the AA thread why he voted. This should be interesting.

Voted for a relative that’s not on here. Is that ok?

Lame. Your “relative” could’ve registered and voted if he/she was that concerned.

They mentioned one of your guys said on your board that a snapshot of the poll was taken to troll people. I said there was actually one on here. They wanted to know what the numbers were and told me to vote F no.

I'll protect the junior pilots from what I perceive as a "B" scale, even though the hard fought pay rate remains intact. They will be furloughed but at least I can rest at night knowing they won't be subject to working less while still earning something near $7,000 per month. After a good furlough, they will come back someday and thank me for helping them understand the expectations of a good airline career. I know how difficult it must be, I almost got furloughed once. I haven't got that many years left, but until then I'm going to work as many days as I can til my last day.

Another douche, Pilot X also voted. It would’ve been nice seeing an informal poll but when you have children in the midst that was a long shot.
An added ramification from the everyone gets a trophy generation.

Thanks for “looking out for us” (you).🙄

By all means, vote in your own self interest. That’s your right, and I wouldn’t begin to question that. At the point where you want to ALSO act like that’s doing me a favor.....eh, not so much. Especially when you share that you ALMOST got furloughed?!

Wow...that must have been really traumatic for you.

Read his (her?) post again.

Is my sarcasm meter acting up?

Most people will be voting in their family's best interest. You get that right? These are kitchen table discussions. The shtt-show at the negotiating table is already over.

I do actually get that. And I did vote, in my family’s best interest. I voted YES. The lecturing from the “grown ups” is getting old. If this TA passes, I fully expect to hear griping about it for YEARS, even if it works and we all get raises at the end.

My apologies for sounding offensive, that was not my intent. I also voted YES even though I am not subject to furlough in the foreseeable future. Having thousands hit the street is not in the best interest of my quality of life. Spending more time at home, now that's quality... albeit having to eat grilled cheese vs filet mignon. All we are is dust in the wind. Best of luck to everyone.

It was tongue-in-cheek, and a decent example of it. I enjoyed it.

Uh... you're welcome?

Thanks for the levity. Not enough of that on here. I’m more fearful that someone is going to blow their aorta banging on their computer here than any of this.

Jokes. Definitely harder when in writing than spoken.

Same with "English comprehension".
Apparently.

Just wanted to let you know I voted NO, but that I’m not at UAL.

I just farted and wanted to let everyone know.

The answer is a resounding yes for people who think no. Just like farting, you might be proud of it but never admit it. We've all been there.

I let the LHR van driver vote for me.

I let Barbra Streisand vote for me.

I think that is correct. You will hear peeing and moaning for years to come. Likely in the next 10 to 15 years there will be another macro-level economic event that triggers major economic impacts at US airlines. it may geo-political, world health scare (pandemic), regional health crisis (ebola), military conflict, security/terrorism, oil/gas related (middle east peace). It may be government related (re-regulation/de-regulation). You may see further consolidation. No one knows. But, history tells us that every 10 to 15 to 20 years the industry experiences a major contraction, and that contraction is the canary in the coal mine that seems to reflect the mood and health of the national economy.

Why the peeing and moaning? Because we have yet to innocualte oursleves against management's penchant to always go after pilot paychecks. Management is genetically programmed to always go after a labor-cost-advantage on the backs of the pilot group. Every cycle, ALPA, and the other unions try to design a better mouse-trap in order to prevent what seems to always happen.

Biden forgot where he was and early voted for Trump. And the LOA.