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10-09-2020, 07:03 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by UALfoLIFE
I’ll bet a lot of guys didn’t take it out of spite for TA in general. Now these people will stay here and complain about low LPAs when they could have had more money to stay home lol.
10-09-2020, 08:17 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by Big5
Surprised? Really? Of all people that’s a bold statement coming from you. IIRC you we’re one of those trumpeting how great EO2 was and that alone was reason enough to vote this LoA in. Well, don’t be so shocked when many more of your prophesies don’t come true wrt this LOA. I do admire your honesty though. As for me, not surprised at all that many EOs were left on the table.
10-09-2020, 09:20 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by BrianHackett
Which the pilot group paid for, winning!
if 4000 pilots had been furloughed without this TA, then wouldn’t they be paying for you to keep 70 hours MPG? Wouldn’t they be paying for those 363 to still be employed? Wouldn’t they be paying to keep the company afloat?
The pilot group is always paying somehow it’s just a matter of who is paying and how much.
10-09-2020, 09:32 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by BrianHackett
Which the pilot group paid for, winning!
10-09-2020, 09:39 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by Big5
You also realize these EO2s don’t create any movement wrt the seniority list or at least not for a couple years until they actually are retired. This is another one of those little gems in the LOA to keep the lower 1/3 in the lower 1/3. They take the EO, we pay for it and we don’t even move up in seniority. I call it a loss.
However, your point is valid and it is a HUGE negative and it’s one of the items I was displeased with
10-09-2020, 09:49 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by Big5
You also realize these EO2s don’t create any movement wrt the seniority list or at least not for a couple years until they actually are retired. This is another one of those little gems in the LOA to keep the lower 1/3 in the lower 1/3. They take the EO, we pay for it and we don’t even move up in seniority. I call it a loss.
Somebody's gotta fill the seat.
Also, I saw some 53 year olds (maybe a few even younger and good on 'em!). So they don't move the list technically for 2 years. But then they sure do.
10-10-2020, 04:20 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
I am absolutely blown away at how small the take number was on this.....I figured people were going to be denied.
Everybody has their reasons for staying an extra 24 months or less rather than taking the offer... but I didn't expect that many would.
10-10-2020, 05:09 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
One guy I spoke with held off because he would be unable to contribute his own money into Schwab.
