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DashTrash 10-20-2020 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by 130shadow (Post 3147293)
June 1 - 4000 furloughs

June 2- Kirby asks Todd for scope relief in exchange for a 15% raise along with a retirement annuity.

Will pass 60-40.

Kirby played us like a fiddle.

No way!!! Not for 15%!!! That not enough of a raise to buy 50%+1. Too many of the voters were burned by scope give backs early in the Dark Decade. Especially those of us who spent an inordinate amount of time in Regional Pilot Purgatory.

MasterOfPuppets 10-20-2020 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3147653)
No way!!! Not for 15%!!! That not enough of a raise to buy 50%+1. Too many of the voters were burned by scope give backs early in the Dark Decade. Especially those of us who spent an inordinate amount of time in Regional Pilot Purgatory.

bingo.

voting for this TA is one thing voting for scope relief is a whole nother animal.......I would be an immediate no for even 1 more regional jet.

This TA is temporary........scope is forever.

LeeFXDWG 10-20-2020 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3147656)
bingo.

voting for this TA is one thing voting for scope relief is a whole nother animal.......I would be an immediate no for even 1 more regional jet.

This TA is temporary........scope is forever.

Amen.......

130shadow 10-20-2020 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3147656)
bingo.

voting for this TA is one thing voting for scope relief is a whole nother animal.......I would be an immediate no for even 1 more regional jet.

This TA is temporary........scope is forever.

Your are correct, scope is forever. But that doesn’t mean SK will come a knocking on the door for relief. When was hired, 78 was mpg, now we are down to 60. Unfortunately nothing is sacred in this business, including scope.

130shadow 10-20-2020 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by opheims (Post 3147644)
PREDICTION: The asteroid approaching Earth on Nov 2nd will make a direct impact:
1) It will kill all life on Earth
2) None of this crap will matter anyway

Making stuff up is fun...

Just like some crazy bat virus decimating our economy and careers, not to mention killing people. Never know what the future holds and SK has us ripe for scope relief in exchange for lost wages. He just needs 50+1.

TodKindrsChikun 10-20-2020 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3147656)
bingo.

voting for this TA is one thing voting for scope relief is a whole nother animal.......I would be an immediate no for even 1 more regional jet.

This TA is temporary........scope is forever.

We have an interest in growing the airline where allowing scope relief might benefit us. Coupled with an extension of pay raises and a retirement vehicle this could be positive.

MasterOfPuppets 10-20-2020 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3147672)
We have an interest in growing the airline where allowing scope relief might benefit us. Coupled with an extension of pay raises and a retirement vehicle this could be positive.

negative.....there is no pitch good enough to even entertain scope. Furlough away.

130shadow 10-20-2020 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3147676)
negative.....there is no pitch good enough to even entertain scope. Furlough away.


And there you have it.......”Furlough Away”. When SK comes with the threat of 4K furloughs for scope relief on June 2, but willing to reduce that number for scope relief, he just bought some more yes voters. Look at the numbers, there is no big pounce this summer as we are all hoping. Kirby is a coming.

MasterOfPuppets 10-20-2020 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by 130shadow (Post 3147681)
And there you have it.......”Furlough Away”. When SK comes with the threat of 4K furloughs for scope relief on June 2, but willing to reduce that number for scope relief, he just bought some more yes voters. Look at the numbers, there is no big pounce this summer as we are all hoping. Kirby is a coming.

ok.....you are a single track record.....a .45 that’s stuck on the B side.

TodKindrsChikun 10-20-2020 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3147676)
negative.....there is no pitch good enough to even entertain scope. Furlough away.

Going to need something to save all the furloughs. The paychecks have been reduced so can’t go into that well again. Liquidity won’t be an issue next summer. What’s left besides scope relief?


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