Prediction
 

June 1 - 4000 furloughs

June 2- Kirby asks Todd for scope relief in exchange for a 15% raise along with a retirement annuity.

Will pass 60-40.

Kirby played us like a fiddle.

Counter prediction, this prediction is beyond stupid for so many reasons.

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42% of the no voters will pull up ladder and vote yes. A majority of the carve out pilots will vote yes since their pay protections will go away and will vote for the 15% raise. The 4000 furloughed pilots will be on the street for a very long time.

Watch and learn grasshoppers, there is no sudden rebound and pounce.

According to your prediction, on the bright side on June 2nd this LOA will be dead. That’s what 58% were banking on.

If you furlough 4000 pilots the entire airline is doomed. The business model doesn't work. The No voters that I have come across seem to be in two categories 1: they understand the impact of covid but they think it is a conspiracy for concessions or 2: they don't fully grasp how screwed the airline is. If we have to furlough 4000 in June every pilot at this airline better start looking at alternate careers.

This is his SECOND chance to Monday morning quarterback a TA before it’s even a TA......or even an AIP for that matter.

Why does this matter to you? You’ll still vote Yes won’t you? I’m sure you never met a TA you didn’t like.

I predict OP will take another puff from the pipe... and see unicorns and rainbows.

What are we voting on?

Aren't you the guy who couldn't do simple math with date of hire and your longevity at retirement? I'd stay away from predictions and math equations if I were you.

More concessions....in the not too distant future. Count on it.

Nah

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The sky is falling, too, Chicken Little. Count on it.

Your future is so bright you gotta wear shades, right? Furloughs are coming. Enjoy you’re 90 hour line while it lasts.

Prediction. Kirby will put a million dollars into 130shadow's bank account and 130shadow, being the fool he is, will complain about the taxes he will have to pay on the free money.

This thread isn’t about predictions.....it’s about wish lists. Some of the seniors are hoping for a vengeful sale of scope in an effort to be “made whole”. OP should go back off headset.

oh good you’re back!!

SK’s wish was to divide the pilot group and WE obliged. Now that we’re divided round 2 of concessions, wishes, predictions or whatever else you want to call it will be a walk in the park for the company. Not a matter of if, but when...

Yes, 90. You are having trouble with math again. Or you never read the TA. Or, more likely, both.

The threat of furlough is concerning to me. If it did occur the voting dynamic might change and my mandate might go the way of my medical. I think preventing furloughs at all cost would be the best course of action.

we are divided for 1 reason and only 1 reason because YOU CHOSE to blame your brothers and sisters for corona virus. YOU are in the minority. I have run into and personally know several no voters they are not divided.

YOU think you have a following all YOU are is the new 1%.

im sure you will counter with I know a ton of ****ed off no voters.......I’m sure you do......

Either you Grammarly account has lapsed or there is something physically wrong with you. Are you ok?

You’re in great hands here. We have a pilot group that will now die on their sword if it saves just ONE furlough. Oddly enough though when they do save your job (Again) by giving away YOUR pay they’ll expect you to be totally ingratiated to them.

I just don’t care I use my phone and what ever comes out comes out. Hope you understand.

I don't think you are obliged to have a monopoly on thought or other pilots thoughts.

You can preach what you want, but just saying it over and over again, and thumping your chest louder and pounding the desk harder doesn't make it so.

You are out of touch with mainstream pilots, and your condescending tone and obnoxious replies to people who disagree with you remind me of how the liberal media treat those they disagree with. It's all good if you can control the narrative.

The No voters can say what they want. They don't need you to parrot their responses, or interpret for them, or pretend to know who they all feel. Your generalizations simply relies on assumptions.

By the way. I hear we got some p'd off yes voters too.

Is that you Todd? Captain Insler....

No, they are ingratiated to me my friend. You see we have a mutual relationship. They protect my job and I’ll protect theirs. Transactional at it’s very best.

Of course. I just want to make sure my pilots are safe.

Exactly, reminds me of a whiny kid.

be unhappy all you want but wishing for furloughs is probably not where you are baseball. I addressed Big 5 because of his post history.

like I said I know a few no voters and they have never wished for furloughs or said I can’t wait until June.......I would call that a 1%er.

Look, I’m little concerned if we furlough. This is all about votes. At the moment we have the numbers in the council membership and LEC’s. We need to make sure this wish list doesn’t come to fruition.

My guess is he’s one of my carve outs. Most likely a junior 737 captain who’s sitting right seat, pay protected, and making at least $35,000/mo.

Leave the 90+ hrs for me and the Steak and Cake gang.

Classic boomer style. I bet you talk to text.

Isn’t it just so irritating that you can’t get 100% of your fellow pilots to think, speak and talk just like YOU? And thanks for taking my words out of context. Never said I can’t wait for June to come. I only expressed an opinion that come June we’ll furlough and quite possibly face threats of massive furloughs. And like the recent LoA we’ll gladly accommodate a second TA with even more concessions. My 1%er opinion. Nowhere in my remarks do you find me fantasizing about dancing on any graves.

Grow up. This is why we will always come up short....jagoffs like you who like to play stupid games to amuse yourself.. What a douche.

Do you know what projection is?

Haha! World-altering Pandemic taking place. Airline industry in shambles. $25 mil out the door per day. But yes Kirbys laughing because he “divided” us. FFS grow a pair.

130shadow finally shut up so you can figure he’s role playing the new handle. Aww, just let them have fun building sandcastles in their little online kiddie sandbox.

And your familiar with Tourette’s Syndrome?

my apologies if this has caused you to develop an uncontrollable tic. I’ll back off now.

Lol, I’ve never heard that before. My father (early 60s) does that too and I’ve always wondered why. Never thought of it as an older person thing.