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Viperstick 10-21-2020 08:54 PM

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."

- George Carlin


Nucflash 10-21-2020 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3148245)
You’re not reading between the lines of my post. Which is it, fear and mass furlough or according to plan no furlough? What’s changed?

You tell us what’s changed. A day or two ago YOU were the one doing the fearmongering. Carlson’s thrown you off kilter, hasn’t he? So sorry!

TodKindrsChikun 10-22-2020 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3148357)
You tell us what’s changed. A day or two ago YOU were the one doing the fearmongering. Carlson’s thrown you off kilter, hasn’t he? So sorry!

No my pet. Nice attempt at deflection. The only thing that has changed from my prediction is the furlough of 2000 or less in June. You tell me. Mass furloughs and base closures to no furloughs, eagerness and according to plan all within 3 wks.

AxlF16 10-22-2020 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3148369)
No my pet. Nice attempt at deflection. The only thing that has changed from my prediction is the furlough of 2000 or less in June. You tell me. Mass furloughs and base closures to no furloughs, eagerness and according to plan all within 3 wks.

None of us know for sure why the tone & outlook changed. But I can guarantee you this - its either a good omen or a bad omen. We'll find out later....

Big5 10-22-2020 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3148380)
None of us know for sure why the tone & outlook changed. But I can guarantee you this - its either a good omen or a bad omen. We'll find out later....

None of us knows? I beg to differ. Several know why the tone and outlook changed. Read the no voters comments here. It follows the manufactured crisis script. And as far as bad or good omen I’ll submit it’s both. Good that there are no more furloughs, bad in that we now own this LOA for two more years.

DashTrash 10-22-2020 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by Big5 (Post 3148428)
None of us knows? I beg to differ. Several know why the tone and outlook changed. Read the no voters comments here. It follows the manufactured crisis script. And as far as bad or good omen I’ll submit it’s both. Good that there are no more furloughs, bad in that we now own this LOA for two more years.

I do not think that this LOA will see its sunset date. Something either good or bad is going to happen that is going to terminate this LOA before the sunset date.

MasterOfPuppets 10-22-2020 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Viperstick (Post 3148343)

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."

- George Carlin


Never argue with a stupid person. They will only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

-George Carlin

LeeFXDWG 10-22-2020 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3148475)
Never argue with a stupid person. They will only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

-George Carlin

My favorite quote from a very intelligent man. He’s been proven correct too many times.

okawner 10-22-2020 10:30 AM

Pretty sure he also refused to release his furlough plan for this Oct and beyond until just prior to notices going out. Don't see why this would be any different.

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AxlF16 10-22-2020 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Big5 (Post 3148428)
None of us knows? I beg to differ. Several know why the tone and outlook changed. Read the no voters comments here. It follows the manufactured crisis script. And as far as bad or good omen I’ll submit it’s both. Good that there are no more furloughs, bad in that we now own this LOA for two more years.

No offense Big5, but you don't know. The fact that you think you do is telling. Why is it hard to admit that you only have an opinion?

ugleeual 10-22-2020 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3148702)
No offense Big5, but you don't know. The fact that you think you do is telling. Why is it hard to admit that you only have an opinion?

exactly... doesn’t know squat.

Andy 10-22-2020 02:49 PM

You guys gotta stop feeding the troll. Don't respond to his bovine excrement. And definitely do not quote him,

Nucflash 10-22-2020 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3148731)
You guys gotta stop feeding the troll. Don't respond to his bovine excrement. And definitely do not quote him,

Trolls.....plural.....

MasterOfPuppet 10-22-2020 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3148768)
Trolls.....plural.....

Hella yaw, are we piling on the the haters here! A out time!!! Let s em who’s boss around here. Sorry Siri can’t sell I’m on my phone. Go toad.

TodKindrsChikun 10-22-2020 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3148768)
Trolls.....plural.....

Yes, shoot the messenger. Simple questions asked.

What are the costs incurred on both sides of the agreement? The only answer I have received is the "costs are irrelevant". Apply that theory to your kitchen table discussions with your significant other.

The message before the vote was doom and gloom. Three weeks later it's no furloughs, eager anticipation, and moving according to plan. What's changed? Nothing but the message. We are forecast to have positive cash flow by next spring. So aggressive that we'll be positive before Delta.

Market share gain and rapid recovery. Southwest and JetBlue are moving into our markets. Then there are the boys in Atlanta sitting on $21 billion of liquidity. Yeah, they'll let us roll.

MasterOfPuppet 10-22-2020 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3148847)
Yes, shoot the messenger. Simple questions asked.

What are the costs incurred on both sides of the agreement? The only answer I have received is the "costs are irrelevant". Apply that theory to your kitchen table discussions with your significant other.

The message before the vote was doom and gloom. Three weeks later it's no furloughs, eager anticipation, and moving according to plan. What's changed? Nothing but the message. We are forecast to have positive cash flow by next spring. So aggressive that we'll be positive before Delta.

Market share gain and rapid recovery. Southwest and JetBlue are moving into our markets. Then there are the boys in Atlanta sitting on $21 billion of liquidity. Yeah, they'll let us roll.

Well gettum next time . Bit right things are f8ing great!!

Half wing 10-22-2020 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppet (Post 3148852)
Well gettum next time . Bit right things are f8ing great!!

you and todkindrschikn are the same person right? You both use the word pet and you just replied to yourself. I’m embarrassed for you.

TodKindrsChikun 10-23-2020 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 3148867)
you and todkindrschikn are the same person right? You both use the word pet and you just replied to yourself. I’m embarrassed for you.

Interesting how the poster showed up after the notion of trolls was raised. Who’s to say Nucflash didn’t post it? Some on here are like cats going after a string.

sleeves 10-23-2020 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Big5 (Post 3148428)
None of us knows? I beg to differ. Several know why the tone and outlook changed. Read the no voters comments here. It follows the manufactured crisis script. And as far as bad or good omen I’ll submit it’s both. Good that there are no more furloughs, bad in that we now own this LOA for two more years.

Manufactured crisis? United lost 1.8 Billion last quarter. You believe they gave away 1.8 Billion so that they could reduce your monthly guarantee? 🙄

ReadOnly7 10-23-2020 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 3148951)
Manufactured crisis? United lost 1.8 Billion last quarter. You believe they gave away 1.8 Billion so that they could reduce your monthly guarantee? 🙄

you have to admire their commitment

TodKindrsChikun 10-23-2020 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 3148951)
Manufactured crisis? United lost 1.8 Billion last quarter. You believe they gave away 1.8 Billion so that they could reduce your monthly guarantee? 🙄

You missed the entire point. Of course the current state of the industry is challenging. Prior to the vote it was 4000-5000 furloughs and base closures. TI was brash enough to give the FPTLD/Flat Earth crowd a date when we run out of money. Miraculously we soon find out we’ll be cash flow positive with $19,000,000,000 in liquidity less debt obligations.

Played like a fiddle.

MasterOfPuppets 10-23-2020 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppet (Post 3148841)
Hella yaw, are we piling on the the haters here! A out time!!! Let s em who’s boss around here. Sorry Siri can’t sell I’m on my phone. Go toad.

it appears I got under someone’s skin......I’m honored

sleeves 10-23-2020 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3148970)
You missed the entire point. Of course the current state of the industry is challenging. Prior to the vote it was 4000-5000 furloughs and base closures. TI was brash enough to give the FPTLD/Flat Earth crowd a date when we run out of money. Miraculously we soon find out we’ll be cash flow positive with $19,000,000,000 in liquidity less debt obligations.

Played like a fiddle.

When will we be cash flow positive? 19,000,000,000 does not last long when you are losing 1,800,000,000 every 4 months. You act like we gave the company money, we didn’t. The company didn’t have money to give us. They were either not gonna give, up to 7000 pilots, anything or give all of us less. We are all getting less, but getting more days off too.

Nucflash 10-23-2020 11:53 AM

Two wildly unsupportable conspiracy theories in almost as many days and now he bizarrely resorts to attracting attention with posts from some sort of MOP alias. I’m beginning to think this is coming straight out of the DPRK.


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