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SS1LE02 04-24-2021 10:31 AM

Interview prep?
 
Hi everyone. I just got the interview invite yesterday and need to schedule it for May or June. Can someone recommend a company or individual who does interview prep, specifically tailored to United? I've been at my regional for a long time and would love to get a job at United. My interview skills and prep are very rusty. I'd really like to know how the interview session works lately and any other insights. Feel free to message me if you'd like. Thanks everyone. I hope to join your ranks someday soon.

serce 04-24-2021 10:47 AM

Lori Clark is good. Cage Marshall consulting, Emerald coast comes to mind.

Gooselives 04-24-2021 12:02 PM

I think Cage closed up shop...the office and sign are gone for in person...

Larry in TN 04-24-2021 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3226152)
I think Cage closed up shop...the office and sign are gone for in person...

https://www.cageconsulting.com/

The site says they're currently booked, for new customers, through May 20.

Gooselives 04-24-2021 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Larry in TN (Post 3226165)
https://www.cageconsulting.com/

The site says they're currently booked, for new customers, through May 20.

yeah looks like inperson store closed up tooo bad another business goes online only ugh

dont have to work on hand grip anymore

John Carr 04-24-2021 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3226182)
dont have to work on hand grip anymore

Work on Elbow bump if you have the balls.

Carter1 04-24-2021 01:47 PM

Lori Clark. She knows the united process in and out. She won’t give you canned answer ideas like the other places.

Shifty 04-24-2021 01:48 PM

Cage. Ask for Angie. One of the reasons I was hired.

ThumbsUp 04-24-2021 02:07 PM

https://emeraldcoastinterviewconsulting.com/

They were good for United and any other airline as well.

FlewNavy 04-25-2021 05:51 AM

Any prep is better than no prep. Cage and Emerald Coast both are good products with different approaches to the game. Cage will give you a more individualized experience whereas Emerald has lots of great online content. The interviewers will know which company you prepped with likely within 1 minute of the beginning of the interview so make sure your stories are uniquely you...aka don't reuse the "helping the old lady with a bag" and the "disgruntled customer who doesn't want to gate check a suitcase" stories.

Buck Rogers 04-25-2021 06:47 AM

Spend the money and do both ...Emerald and Cage. If you get hired, well worth it. If you don’t get hired, at least you have the solace that you prepped adequately. Money well spent. JMHO.

Good luck. I would also suggest putting in an app for lesser tier and go to their interview first. Good prep and gets those butterflies under control if you haven’t done much interviewing over your career ie military.

Cheers, Buck

ClearCreek 04-25-2021 08:36 AM

Lori Clark!

FlewNavy 04-25-2021 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3226380)
Spend the money and do both ...Emerald and Cage. If you get hired, well worth it. If you don’t get hired, at least you have the solace that you prepped adequately. Money well spent. JMHO.

Good luck. I would also suggest putting in an app for lesser tier and go to their interview first. Good prep and gets those butterflies under control if you haven’t done much interviewing over your career ie military.

Cheers, Buck

I actually think this is good advice - however - with a May/June interview on the horizon for the OP then I would probably just do Cage. The online material from ECIC is good for prep for the folks that have 6+ months to listen and digest all the material and then schedule seminars and the 1v1.

SS1LE02 04-25-2021 10:17 AM

Thanks for all the replies everyone. I'm leaning towards Cage Marshall or Lori Clarke.

Sixty N Two 04-25-2021 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3226380)
Spend the money and do both ...Emerald and Cage. If you get hired, well worth it. If you don’t get hired, at least you have the solace that you prepped adequately. Money well spent. JMHO.

Good luck. I would also suggest putting in an app for lesser tier and go to their interview first. Good prep and gets those butterflies under control if you haven’t done much interviewing over your career ie military.

Cheers, Buck

ECAC was beneficial in that it made me do the prep work. It encouraged me to think about various scenarios and situations I’ve had and how I could frame them as failures and how I grew from them. So with a playbook of scenarios for different environments I was ready talk with them vs having a canned answer. I felt more authentic and less rehearsed. Yet, still felt prepared. No experience with Cage, but have heard good things too. Good luck to all

Aquaticus 04-25-2021 02:31 PM

I have done Cage and ECIC for two different airlines and I disagree with doing them both for one target airline. I did them years apart and they have slightly different approaches to certain situations. ECIC does webinars that are fantastic. Your first will be rough but the second will feel right. Hiring two of these companies is unnecessary and may actually do more harm then good. A good interview prep polishes who you are but too much polish and your Eddie Haskell with no personality. They appreciate you prepping because it saves them from the too long 10 min "tell us about you?" that starts with "well mammy and pappy brought me into existence in 1970..." but they don't want canned answers. They have BS meters like everyone does. Some people will make this difficult but do the prep, put in some time getting your transcripts/logbook/application done 100%, and then be yourself.

threeighteen 04-27-2021 06:19 AM

Centerline https://www.centerlineinterviewprep.com/
Clark Airline Pilot Interview Preparation
Cage https://www.cageconsulting.com/

Lots of people have been avoiding Emerald Coast (ECIC) ever since the owner started spewing out some racist stuff on his personal FB page last year and then couldn't make anything better than an insincere defensive apology about it.

82spukram 04-27-2021 06:34 AM

I had no idea he did that (Emerald Cost).....that stinks because I used his service and believed he had a really great program. At the time the webinar format was great and I had 8 days from hitting apply to sitting across a table for an interview and his team got me ready. Just sucks

ugleeual 04-27-2021 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3226380)
Spend the money and do both ...Emerald and Cage. If you get hired, well worth it. If you don’t get hired, at least you have the solace that you prepped adequately. Money well spent. JMHO.

Good luck. I would also suggest putting in an app for lesser tier and go to their interview first. Good prep and gets those butterflies under control if you haven’t done much interviewing over your career ie military.

Cheers, Buck

Emerald and Cage... you want to increase chances of passing the interview then hire one of them.

KonaJoe 04-27-2021 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3227154)
Centerline https://www.centerlineinterviewprep.com/
Clark Airline Pilot Interview Preparation
Cage https://www.cageconsulting.com/

Lots of people have been avoiding Emerald Coast (ECIC) ever since the owner started spewing out some racist stuff on his personal FB page last year and then couldn't make anything better than an insincere defensive apology about it.

That's vague.. The bar has been set pretty low as to what's considered offensive or racist to this generation. You'd have to give more details than that. I used ECIC years ago and they helped me get to United. They've been in the business a long time.

Margaritaville 04-27-2021 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by KonaJoe (Post 3227187)
That's vague.. The bar has been set pretty low as to what's considered offensive or racist to this generation. You'd have to give more details than that. I used ECIC years ago and they helped me get to United. They've been in the business a long time.

All from a 20 second google search!

I wouldn't tell the United recruiter you used ECIC.

https://twitter.com/ExposedPilots/st...99076935995394

rvfanatic 04-27-2021 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3227154)
Centerline https://www.centerlineinterviewprep.com/
Clark Airline Pilot Interview Preparation
Cage https://www.cageconsulting.com/

Lots of people have been avoiding Emerald Coast (ECIC) ever since the owner started spewing out some racist stuff on his personal FB page last year and then couldn't make anything better than an insincere defensive apology about it.

Real classy. Aaron is a genuinely great guy and his company has a superb product who has helped thousands of people. You’re ill informed and no better than a high school gossip queen.

Huell 04-27-2021 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3227226)
All from a 20 second google search!

I wouldn't tell the United recruiter you used ECIC.

https://twitter.com/ExposedPilots/st...99076935995394

The guy is an idiot ... so what? From a political standpoint, so are about half the guys you fly with. Doesn’t matter which side you are on.

Margaritaville 04-27-2021 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Huell (Post 3227252)
The guy is an idiot ... so what? From a political standpoint, so are about half the guys you fly with. Doesn’t matter which side you are on.

Except that it does matter to the HR people doing the hiring.

threeighteen 04-27-2021 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3227230)
Real classy. Aaron is a genuinely great guy and his company has a superb product who has helped thousands of people.

I know a lot of people that work(ed) for ECIC and provide(d) a great product under his brand's name, but that doesn't absolve him from saying some pretty F'd up things and not even showing legit remorse for them when called on it.

The screenshots posted above don't even compare to the bad ones that disappeared pretty quick.

Sixty N Two 04-27-2021 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3227253)
Except that it does matter to the HR people doing the hiring.

Nice push from the Cancel Culture crowd, wow!!!!

I wouldn’t tell them who you used regardless. It won’t take long for them to know you’ve used interview prep and that says more than anything, it shows you’re willing to put in the time and effort to prepare for this job. Who you used is about as relevant to them as the color tie you wear. Put in the prep time and just be yourself. And I used ECIC and would again. I never met Aaron, I had a lady and she was excellent.

KonaJoe 04-27-2021 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3227257)
The screenshots posted above don't even compare to the bad ones that disappeared pretty quick.

What exactly did he say, because the above link was him ranting about a particularly extreme sect of a religion, most of whose members would agree with him on that.

What he did was use bad judgment by letting his emotions get the better of him. But he's a dude who has helped a LOT of pilots. I'm going to have to see something more than that to judge and cancel the dude.

And before you get sensitive about my view on it, I'll tell you that I'm a lifelong Democrat who agrees that the Democrats are as much hypocritical and full of crap as their Republican counterparts.

Airhoss 04-27-2021 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3227257)
I know a lot of people that work(ed) for ECIC and provide(d) a great product under his brand's name, but that doesn't absolve him from saying some pretty F'd up things and not even showing legit remorse for them when called on it.

The screenshots posted above don't even compare to the bad ones that disappeared pretty quick.

Racism is the witchcraft of the 21st century, a mere accusation from the “woksters” is grounds for burning the accused on the execution pyre of cancel culture. We are soundly skrewd in this country if what was said by the ECIC CEO is grounds for social execution. Step back and analyze, this is the death of free speech, debate and independent thought.

Neptune 04-27-2021 01:11 PM

ECIC
 
I was unimpressed with the ECIC videos. I didn’t feel like it was very valuable, especially for the price. Admittedly, I didn’t really have much interest in them, as I didn’t want to accidentally refer to those stories or scenarios at my interview. The general content is just that, general and only surface level.

However, after you get an interview invite and do their seminars and top-off, you’ll be very thankful. The United-specific seminar was incredible and performed by a United pilot with experience conducting interviews for the company. You’re getting info from an involved source. Specifically for the flight scenario portion of the interview, it was invaluable.

The top-off was also excellent. It’s a mock interview with many of the similarly-worded questions that you’ll see at the interview. It’ll cover a range of topics and will get you prepared for nearly anything asked during the HR portion. It was nice having the reassurance that my answers and tone were on point with what the company was searching for.

FWIW, don’t let Aaron’s social media account prevent you from receiving excellent preparation. If one lets another person’s politic views dissuade he/she from landing their dream job, then it probably wasn’t as important as believed. If you really want the job, help your self and go with a known entity. ECIC and Cage have a track record of success. Don’t overthink it.

threeighteen 04-27-2021 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by KonaJoe (Post 3227342)
What exactly did he say, because the above link was him ranting about a particularly extreme sect of a religion, most of whose members would agree with him on that.

What he did was use bad judgment by letting his emotions get the better of him. But he's a dude who has helped a LOT of pilots. I'm going to have to see something more than that to judge and cancel the dude.

And before you get sensitive about my view on it, I'll tell you that I'm a lifelong Democrat who agrees that the Democrats are as much hypocritical and full of crap as their Republican counterparts.

I'm a lifelong conservative, voted for Trump (even though he's closer to a democrat imo), and I'm not a fan of BLM and their marxist wokeness BS by any means, but that doesn't make me a racist and I sure as hell don't tolerate racism from people who are supposed to be leaders.

"I am tired of you holding me down. I need you to start sending me reparation checks immediately. PM me for my address and I will bill you based upon how much each of you has held me me back. Expect some hefty fines B****es... Us people of color have got to stick together" -AH, 2020

The apology was the real "wtf" though. It was more of an explanation of his position accompanied by a "my counsel told me to say sorry then shut up" instead of a heartfelt apology. Then the whole ECIC page got yanked off of facebook.

BurnerAccount69 04-27-2021 01:38 PM

Thread drift achieved

ThumbsUp 04-27-2021 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3227226)
All from a 20 second google search!

I wouldn't tell the United recruiter you used ECIC.

https://twitter.com/ExposedPilots/st...99076935995394


I fail to see racism in those comments.

Airhoss 04-27-2021 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3227410)
I fail to see racism in those comments.

Thats because you are not desperately seeking it in everything, everywhere and in everybody.

Hedley 04-27-2021 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3227349)
Racism is the witchcraft of the 21st century, a mere accusation from the “woksters” is grounds for burning the accused on the execution pyre of cancel culture. We are soundly skrewd in this country if what was said by the ECIC CEO is grounds for social execution. Step back and analyze, this is the death of free speech, debate and independent thought.

Woke and cancel culture is just modern day McCarthyism. If you dare question the narrative you are to be hunted down and destroyed. Hopefully history will look at this witch-hunt as an embarrassment just like those of the past.

KonaJoe 04-27-2021 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3227384)
I'm a lifelong conservative, voted for Trump (even though he's closer to a democrat imo), and I'm not a fan of BLM and their marxist wokeness BS by any means, but that doesn't make me a racist and I sure as hell don't tolerate racism from people who are supposed to be leaders.

"I am tired of you holding me down. I need you to start sending me reparation checks immediately. PM me for my address and I will bill you based upon how much each of you has held me me back. Expect some hefty fines B****es... Us people of color have got to stick together" -AH, 2020

The apology was the real "wtf" though. It was more of an explanation of his position accompanied by a "my counsel told me to say sorry then shut up" instead of a heartfelt apology. Then the whole ECIC page got yanked off of facebook.

He wrote that? I've got to be honest with you. That sounded more manic than racist. I'm stunned he had poor enough emotional control to post that given his business but...He thinks the concept of monetary reparations is asinine. So do I. His only crime is acting like a jack*** on Facebook.

​​​Racism would be if he said he's better than somebody else because of his race. That's not what he even implied.
​​​

libertyrisk 04-27-2021 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by KonaJoe (Post 3227422)
He wrote that? I've got to be honest with you. That sounded more manic than racist. I'm stunned he had poor enough emotional control to post that given his business but...He thinks the concept of monetary reparations is asinine. So do I. His only crime is acting like a jack*** on Facebook.

​​​Racism would be if he said he's better than somebody else because of his race. That's not what he even implied.
​​​

Rumor has it that Albie's "reparations" comment came after his mail-in DNA test showed he had some African in his blood line. He was being super sarcastic regarding reparations but in this day and age of wokeness, he should have been smart enough not to make the snide comments on social media so his business wouldn't be affected as well as 6 month no pay from FedEx.

KonaJoe 04-27-2021 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by libertyrisk (Post 3227438)
Rumor has it that Albie's "reparations" comment came after his mail-in DNA test showed he had some African in his blood line. He was being super sarcastic regarding reparations but in this day and age of wokeness, he should have been smart enough not to make the snide comments on social media so his business wouldn't be affected as well as 6 month no pay from FedEx.

He got suspended from FedEx? This is why I don't have social media.

DoubtingThomas 04-27-2021 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by KonaJoe (Post 3227446)
He got suspended from FedEx? This is why I don't have social media.


“TMAAT you got suspended from work for drunk-posting on social media.”

Airhoss 04-27-2021 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by libertyrisk (Post 3227438)
Rumor has it that Albie's "reparations" comment came after his mail-in DNA test showed he had some African in his blood line. He was being super sarcastic regarding reparations but in this day and age of wokeness, he should have been smart enough not to make the snide comments on social media so his business wouldn't be affected as well as 6 month no pay from FedEx.

It’s pretty amazing how far we’ve come. A citizen of the USA can be cancelled for making a non politically approved comment. Even if that comment causes no harm or threat to another human being. The similarities to various communist tyrannical dictatorships are eerie. The SJW, cancel culture, woksters are a seething mass of hate and revulsion. Social media is a disease and those who support censorship and canceling are a threat to the very fabric of our nation.

DoubtingThomas 04-28-2021 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3227489)
It’s pretty amazing how far we’ve come. A citizen of the USA can be cancelled for making a non politically approved comment. Even if that comment causes no harm or threat to another human being. The similarities to various communist tyrannical dictatorships are eerie. The SJW, cancel culture, woksters are a seething mass of hate and revulsion. Social media is a disease and those who support censorship and canceling are a threat to the very fabric of our nation.

So much drama, so much martyrdom. Nobody has been cancelled, whatever that means. If you want to speak specifically about Aaron Hagen, all I see is a man who lacks the humility to question the validity of his opinions, who chose to broadcast them on a loud megaphone now facing the consequences of his actions. Maybe this is a blindspot for a person who also has 1000s of social media posts: your opinion just isn't that important, and also, sometimes actions have consequences.

If people choose to take their money to a competing interview prep service and Emerald Coast loses business because the boss unwisely couldn't manage to push off from the keyboard, that's just the free market at work. If Hagen wasn't concerned with getting the approval/money from whoever he thinks he is speaking to on FB, then he was and is free to be as loud and dumb as he wants to be online, just as we all are. But to say anyone is being cancelled as if it's some form of exile or prison sentence is far too dramatic, and ironically makes one out to sound like the victims they love to criticize.


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