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Gooselives 05-13-2021 05:00 PM

No Degree Aviate
 
Did Aviate just solidify a no degree avalanche of pilots? Reading the aviate website, it seem one can go from getting one’s ratings at the academy to 24 months at a regional to UAL. I think this is crazy. Is this correct? Are we now going to have mass of high school edumacted pilots in the flight deck? This should be rethought.

Sloneckozzz 05-13-2021 05:03 PM

The transition to United requires a degree it’s in the program guidelines.


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Myfingershurt 05-13-2021 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3234610)
Did Aviate just solidify a no degree avalanche of pilots? Reading the aviate website, it seem one can go from getting one’s ratings at the academy to 24 months at a regional to UAL. I think this is crazy. Is this correct? Are we now going to have mass of high school edumacted pilots in the flight deck? This should be rethought.

I dunno, with the heavily liberal influenced education that kids get in college now, I’d be fine with high school educated kids. Life lessons are way more valuable than anything i learned in college.

iceman21 05-13-2021 06:06 PM

A high school educated pilot can fly a 50-76 seat regional jet but is incapable of flying a 77-330 passenger mainline jet? Interesting.

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Hedley 05-13-2021 06:35 PM

Everyone knows that your chances of getting hired by a legacy without a degree are slim to none, yet people still refuse to get one and then complain about not getting hired? Interesting.

iceman21 05-13-2021 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3234641)
Everyone knows that your chances of getting hired by a legacy without a degree are slim to none, yet people still refuse to get one and then complain about not getting hired? Interesting.

I don't have any issue with an employer's requirements to obtain employment, however, comments from the peanut gallery about "edumacated" people occupying the cockpit with those who are "educated" deserves to be called out for the absurd comment that it is.

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Winston 05-13-2021 07:41 PM

The college degree preference (just shy of being a requirement), while understandable when it’s a seller’s market, is a bit absurd when they’re desperate enough to fund a training pipeline for zero-hour candidates.

I’ve got a good buddy from the RJ days who has spent the last decade flying heavies internationally for Cathay, but his application is basically DOA at all the majors because he went from high school directly to flight school.

Apparently his knowledge, skills, and experience account for next to nothing while a fresh-faced AVIATE enrollee will get fast tracked to a multi-million dollar career…

This industry is crazy.

ThumbsUp 05-13-2021 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 3234659)
The college degree preference (just shy of being a requirement), while understandable when it’s a seller’s market, is a bit absurd when they’re desperate enough to fund a training pipeline for zero-hour candidates.

I’ve got a good buddy from the RJ days who has spent the last decade flying heavies internationally for Cathay, but his application is basically DOA at all the majors because he went from high school directly to flight school.

Apparently his knowledge, skills, and experience account for next to nothing while a fresh-faced AVIATE enrollee will get fast tracked to a multi-million dollar career…

This industry is crazy.

Is that the rationale for Aviate? I don’t think the “shortage” is its genesis. The legacies won’t have any problems putting faces to spaces for some time. Now the regionals are another story. Perhaps that is the reason it exists.

ThumbsUp 05-13-2021 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3234610)
Did Aviate just solidify a no degree avalanche of pilots? Reading the aviate website, it seem one can go from getting one’s ratings at the academy to 24 months at a regional to UAL. I think this is crazy. Is this correct? Are we now going to have mass of high school edumacted pilots in the flight deck? This should be rethought.

To be eligible for mainline, the Aviate site says a Bachelor’s degree is required unless an exception is granted, so it’s still basically the status quo in that regard.

NovemberBravo 05-13-2021 08:28 PM

They told us on an informational call when Aviate started they would wave the degree requirement for people with significant leadership experience chief pilot, director of operations etc. So basically just get your degree.


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