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F15andMD11 05-22-2022 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3426502)
...it’ll take a MAXIMUM of 2.5 hours to fill that position...

Fixed it for you.

flyalear 05-31-2022 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3427760)
SC is kinda just part of the deal….but there needs to be a limit. For example, only one SC per work block. If you get another, 2 hours of ADD PAY. If you get USED on that SC, the ADD pay still stands.

one should get 5 hours min pay for SC/FSB, just like any LH that has to work. Perhaps a lower amount if you are are on LC the entire day. there are already plenty of other negatives about being on reserve lesser pay for the same number of days worked shouldnt be one. A LH that works 18 days, even if some are just sitting in a hotel or deadheading still get 5 hrs min for the day, ie 90 hrs for 18 days.

Augerin 06-01-2022 07:30 AM

Wisdom
 

Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3425427)
the cost for FSB and short call needs to be raised significantly for the company - to the point that they will only use it if they truly have to.

the question is where that price point is. If it comes down to cancelling a global flight I suspect they won’t even blink to shell out 5-10 hours of override / premium pay.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

Reserve rules truly need to be changed!

DamnThatWasFast 01-21-2023 04:15 PM

Sorry if this is somewhere in here, I've searched and couldn't find it. Couple questions:
1. How long is FSB and what is the pay for it.
2. How does global reserve work, and how many hard days off do you have? I hear people say its horrible... wondering how it works.
3. I'n last bid, how may CA slots went unfilled.

Thanks in advance.

Random Task 01-22-2023 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by DamnThatWasFast (Post 3576526)
Sorry if this is somewhere in here, I've searched and couldn't find it. Couple questions:
1. How long is FSB and what is the pay for it.
2. How does global reserve work, and how many hard days off do you have? I hear people say its horrible... wondering how it works.
3. I'n last bid, how may CA slots went unfilled.

Thanks in advance.

FSB is 4 hours. There is no extra pay until your 3rd UNUSED conversion. So if you are converted 3 times and assigned a trip all 3 times you get exactly 0 extra pay.

Global reserves have the same 12 or 13 days off as the domestic fleets. The difference with global is that a block of 6 days is dubbed "holy" days off and cant be touched. Your other 6 or 7 days off you can be rolled into. If rolled they will put a new day off somewhere else on your schedule. You will still have the same number of days off, you just won't know when they are. That's the rub with global. Not good for those who need more schedule certainty.

I count 167 unfilled captain positions, between 737 320 and 75/76 (only 1 unfilled here).

tundrabeat 01-22-2023 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Random Task (Post 3577010)
FSB is 4 hours. There is no extra pay until your 3rd UNUSED conversion. So if you are converted 3 times and assigned a trip all 3 times you get exactly 0 extra pay.

Global reserves have the same 12 or 13 days off as the domestic fleets. The difference with global is that a block of 6 days is dubbed "holy" days off and cant be touched. Your other 6 or 7 days off you can be rolled into. If rolled they will put a new day off somewhere else on your schedule. You will still have the same number of days off, you just won't know when they are. That's the rub with global. Not good for those who need more schedule certainty.

I count 167 unfilled captain positions, between 737 320 and 75/76 (only 1 unfilled here).

RE: Global Reserve - If I get awarded 777/787 in initial training, is it correct that Global Reserve is an automatic 2 year commitment? What happens if I initially get awarded narrowbody, then after a few months, or once off probation, decide to bid widebody - would global reserve in that scenario also be an automatic 2 year commitment?

ThumbsUp 01-22-2023 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by tundrabeat (Post 3577055)
RE: Global Reserve - If I get awarded 777/787 in initial training, is it correct that Global Reserve is an automatic 2 year commitment? What happens if I initially get awarded narrowbody, then after a few months, or once off probation, decide to bid widebody - would global reserve in that scenario also be an automatic 2 year commitment?


It’s all based on your seniority and the placement of the g-line (cut line between those guaranteed a line and reserves). With EWR 777 FO being the outlier, the junior lineholder as WB FO DOH ranges from 4-20 years depending on the domicile. DOH isn’t a perfect measure, just FYI. Reserve itself is not a commitment.

tundrabeat 01-22-2023 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3577059)
It’s all based on your seniority and the placement of the g-line (cut line between those guaranteed a line and reserves). With EWR 777 FO being the outlier, the junior lineholder as WB FO DOH ranges from 4-20 years depending on the domicile. DOH isn’t a perfect measure, just FYI. Reserve itself is not a commitment.

Thanks, but was I correct that initially GR is two years as a new hire wide-body FO?

ThumbsUp 01-22-2023 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by tundrabeat (Post 3577069)
Thanks, but was I correct that initially GR is two years as a new hire wide-body FO?

No. The commitment to the aircraft is 2 years. Except for EWR 777, you would be on reserve longer.

tundrabeat 01-22-2023 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3577073)
No. The commitment to the aircraft is 2 years. Except for EWR 777, you would be on reserve longer.

That makes way more sense, thank you. Two year seatlock (unless one upgrades).


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