No, you need to have rest prior to the SC/FSBY or trip assignment. Which minimum is 10hrs, could be more and in my experience has been 12-13 hrs from start time of SC or FSB. You could also pick up the SC/FSBY or trip if available to “know” your trip.

Short call can be assigned with 10 hours notice if given before 1800.

What is worse about the constant short calls is they can end it whenever they want with no pilot concurence and put you into 10 hours of rest for your next short call.

I think that depends on how many they think it will capture to be a zero risk offer. Changing the reserve structure (meaning limiting shortcalls, FSB, etc., not pay) is pretty significant. I personally don’t think it’s going to gain as much as the complaints about reserve suggest. The reserve fixes are for the most junior people. Anyone else that hasn’t upgraded isn’t a result of reserve rules, it’s crappy lines and loss of relative seniority, summer vacation etc.

Thanks for the clarification. And you're right, calling you to put you to rest for 10 hrs at any point in your 14hr availability means that you are like on SC and a modified LC at the same time.

Imagine you are on a 0700 SC, they can call you at 1300 to "go to bed" and work a red eye. Not sure what you can be rested for in the same day, 0700 or 2300? Food for thought

it’s both - sure I’d prefer good lines over crappy lines etc.

But there is no way that would voluntarily bid into something that puts me on reserve - full stop. Reserve rules and dynamics would have to change by orders of magnitude for me to consider that and I doubt we will see more than marginal improvements.

that maybe the required rule change we need. Once on SC they cannot end it. They either assign you a 117 compliant trip during the short call or they have to wait until you burned through your SC plus required rest.

that alone will make them more judicious in assigning SC.

Right. That's a manpower positive change ☝️

I doubt we will either because I don’t think the improvements will affect enough people’s choice. The only gross shortage is on the NB side and if you could bid a NB CA line now, improving reserve isn’t part of that decision. I guess we’ll see… maybe.

Reserve has to improve. Here's the new Delta TA bullets...

Long call has been increased from 12 hours to 18 hours
- If a Reserve pilot is assigned a rotation with more than 18 hours to report, they are
released from availability up to 24 hours prior their assigned rotation’s report time.
- 1st day earliest rotation report is 18 hours after the pilot begins their first on-call day
- A rotation may be assigned that reports as early as 10 hours after the pilot begins their
first on-call day (same as current practice), if such rotation is assigned at least 12 hours
prior to the end of the pilot’s last non-fly day (Currently, only 9 hours is required)
- A pilot who is assigned a rotation that reports between 10 and 18 hours from the start
of their first on-call day will not be required to schedule their commute to include a
backup flight, if required under any commute policy currently in effect, and will be
considered to be in compliance with such policy.
- Last day availability release times moved to 0600 base time (moved earlier from current
1200) on the pilot’s last on-call day
- A reserve pilot may not be assigned another rotation within 18 hours from release in
base from their current rotation (increased from the current 12 hours)

Thanks. That’s what I assumed for legality, but we know what assumptions do. Again, thanks for the verification.