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JetDoc 05-29-2022 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3431689)

You still got it my friend, you still got it. I actually lol'd.

BobbyLeeSwagger 05-29-2022 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by JetDoc (Post 3431724)
You still got it my friend, you still got it. I actually lol'd.

Haha hope you are well! The meme war that recently occurred on FB was absolutely eye watering.. some talented folks on there. I am truly 'just happy to be here' haha.

C-17 Driver 05-29-2022 05:28 PM

Perspective..

2 years ago, I’m sure many of you (including me) would trade the current status quo for what we we are experiencing now at EWR.

we get paid by the minute.. as others said, we are responsible for safely operating from A to B. Focus on that. Getting angry about it will be the same as curing the rain. You can’t fix it.

Engage the passengers, keep them apprised. Don’t apologize. Just keep them posted.

rvfanatic 05-29-2022 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by C-17 Driver (Post 3431793)
Perspective..

2 years ago, I’m sure many of you (including me) would trade the current status quo for what we we are experiencing now at EWR.

we get paid by the minute.. as others said, we are responsible for safely operating from A to B. Focus on that. Getting angry about it will be the same as curing the rain. You can’t fix it.

Engage the passengers, keep them apprised. Don’t apologize. Just keep them posted.

It’s comical you have to compare EWR today to a global pandemic to make it palatable.

Also, it makes it really hard to engage the pax when ops and the company literally don’t have any clue how long you’ll wait for the gate or what the delay is. It’s unsat.

nfo99 05-29-2022 06:00 PM

Last time I was there the gate agent said the whole new hire class of agents quit when they realized how bad the job was and learned their seniority would provide horrible shifts indefinitely.

Airhoss 05-29-2022 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3431712)
Cool we agree on something. There is a leadership void in Newark and it needs attention.

Now what can we do? Our union should send a message from pilots to the company. Comms are severely lacking in both directions. Waiting hours in some cases is affecting our customers and it’s also affecting our pilots who have commutes and personal commitments elsewhere.

So your solution is write a strongly worded letter? I covered that in the post prior, while it might make you feel better do you honestly think it’ll provide a remedy? And do you honestly think none of the “dinosaurs” have not tried that in the past.

You did answer my question, besides getting your shot in on senior pilots you have absolutely zero workable solutions. Carry on…

worstpilotever 05-29-2022 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3431832)
So your solution is write a strongly worded letter? I covered that in the post prior, while it might make you feel better do you honestly think it’ll provide a remedy? And do you honestly think none of the “dinosaurs” have not tried that in the past.

You did answer my question, besides getting your shot in on senior pilots you have absolutely zero workable solutions. Carry on…

"I strongly object your honor!"

okawner 05-30-2022 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3431802)
Also, it makes it really hard to engage the pax when ops and the company literally don’t have any clue how long you’ll wait for the gate or what the delay is. It’s unsat.

The flight info app can be a tool for gaining insight on what's happening on the gate. If you search the gate and station you can access the flight feed and group chat for the flight. Not always useful, but sometimes. Btw I hate EWR too. Haven't waited on a gate recently (guess I've been lucky there) but haven't pushed on time in recent memory. Usually due to fuel, catering, ramp, or some other avoidable delay.

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johnwick 05-30-2022 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by worstpilotever (Post 3431873)
"I strongly object your honor!"

Wasn’t it “I strenuously object, Your Honor!” 🤣🤣

Hedley 05-30-2022 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3431712)
Cool we agree on something. There is a leadership void in Newark and it needs attention.

Now what can we do? Our union should send a message from pilots to the company. Comms are severely lacking in both directions. Waiting hours in some cases is affecting our customers and it’s also affecting our pilots who have commutes and personal commitments elsewhere.

You might be missing the point about EWR and how little influence pilots have in making changes. The union can write letters all day long and it does nothing, it never has. I’ve been operating in EWR for going on 20 years and nothing changes……..ever. Different management teams have come and gone over the years, each with a different plan and campaign about how things are going to improve, yet nothing ever does. The old saying about making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear is appropriate. All we can do as pilots is keep the cabin cool, keep the passengers informed, accept EWR for what it is, and get paid by the minute.


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