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Originally Posted by pilot772
(Post 3442079)
What am I missing I see 4, 3.25, 3.25
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Originally Posted by Pro2nd
(Post 3442128)
I just used the published current UPS rates from the APC profile page. Maybe I'm missing something.
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United will never be industry leading
Originally Posted by Ualhvyjet
(Post 3441265)
From a friend below:
UPS pilots have negotiated a tentative agreement (TA). So their A-Fund pension is $4,650 x YOS (years of service, 30 max) = $139,500 per year in retirement. They also used to get 12% B fund. No detail yet what the increase in B fund looks like. 81 hour monthly guarantee. They got a contract in 2016 with 14.65% pay increase at date of signing and 3% every year since, 4% in 2021 and 3% in 2022. United has the same work rules since 2012 ... and pay rates unchanged from Jan 2019. |
Originally Posted by Pro2nd
(Post 3442128)
I just used the published current UPS rates from the APC profile page. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
(Post 3442146)
United has ZERO, NADA, NOTHING for a pension..and the pilots are unwilling to even fight for one.
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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
(Post 3442146)
United has ZERO, NADA, NOTHING for a pension..and the pilots are unwilling to even fight for one.
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Screwing over the senior bros with a single pay band is a good first step but it doesn't go far enough. I propose we let management, not seniority, be the gatekeeper for top paying positions, e.g. check airmen and flight instructor. Honestly even just the latter would be a step in the right direction as long as the narrow body check airmen rate is higher than widebody captain. Hopefully we get both, but I'll settle for one of these.
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Originally Posted by fadec
(Post 3442232)
I propose we let management, not seniority, be the gatekeeper for top paying positions, e.g. check airmen and flight instructor.
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I have it on good authority there will be no pony in this contract.
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
(Post 3442279)
I have it on good authority there will be no pony in this contract.
Years ago I saw a guy in Newark grabbing a whole bunch of those contractually required granola bars in the CPO and put them in his bag. I made a comment about how I'm glad to see at least one person actually eats these. He said "Hell no, they aren't for me - but my horse absolutely loves them." We laugh, but the no pony thing may be a deal breaker... |
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