Next downturn we're unlikely to to get billions in relief funds and we're unlikely to get the majority of the pilot group to agree to the three tier pay scheme.

Considering I met him over 10 years ago when he was a 777 F/O and senior to me. I’d have to say you’re full of chit, but hey at least you’re not afraid to spout it out loud and proud.

Done deal…
 

With roughly 1800 literally voting on one section that concerns offline, TK and LCA and how many within 2-3 years of retirement this baby is a done deal regardless. Never been an easier setup for 50+1. Looking forward to seeing it sometime this weekend but smart enough to know the pilot vote is a moot point. It’ll pass regardless.

61% to 39% passing

Sadly, that means leaving money on the table.

if it doesn’t pass how long till we can vote on another one?

Honestly, no way to know or answer that one. As for a guess…
6 months minimum 2 years possibly.

This type scenario/vote is exactly why I have always said that if offline and TK should have a separate contract altogether and by being offline or TK should not be able to vote on our contract nor should we vote on their 1-2 sections that are over and above ours. Now notice I did not say LCA cause they actively fly the line with a bid schedule. So only offline does this refer to.

Any position that is not bid with by their hire date seniority and placed in a position by an interview with management should not be voting on our contract. And as long as this practice continues ALPA is simply an Ops group association and not a true union.

One month for the longest. Kirby WANTS a new contract. United is motivated to get this done. If we vote it down they will throw some more money at us to get it done. There is no way Kirby allows this to linger.

benefits United to get it done soon before they have to match or exceed someone else’s bar. Don’t fear timeline. If it’s not a great TA vote No