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Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3480686)
That’s always been the case. Our strength has always come from the unity of those on property, not any lack of hopeful applicants. We all welcome & understand those who want to work here. I’m just concerned that current opportunities are leading those of us already here to be okay with a system where instead of being a “cherry on top” end to a great career, upgrade is becoming more of an expedient necessity for a comfortable (not lavish) lifestyle.
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3480622)
This is true & unfortunately I think is crushing our resolve to fight for meaningful pay increases. With the 15% or so we’ve lost to inflation since our last bump, NB FO is no longer meeting a lot of people’s needs. But since pretty much anyone can hold NB CA now, it’s not seen as a problem- just upgrade in 12 months if you need more $$$! Obviously that’s not a realistic long-term solution. FO will go back to a decade+ gig eventually. It used to pay accordingly & needs to keep up with the changing times.
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
(Post 3480712)
Some bases the reserve schedule , while unpredictable will be similar to what they are holding as FO. But as a captain the pay increase from year 1 FO to year 2 captain is easily 10k when you include 401k
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
(Post 3480750)
HUGE difference between holding that schedule for 6 months as an FO or 6-10 yrs as a CA lol. But there will always be some that don’t care they just want the 4th stripe. I value my family and life way more than a few extra dollars. But that’s the beauty of this career, choices.
I’m just saying for the pay and relatively similar schedule it would make sense to do it imo |
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3480686)
That’s always been the case. Our strength has always come from the unity of those on property, not any lack of hopeful applicants. We all welcome & understand those who want to work here. I’m just concerned that current opportunities are leading those of us already here to be okay with a system where instead of being a “cherry on top” end to a great career, upgrade is becoming more of an expedient necessity for a comfortable (not lavish) lifestyle.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3480783)
Indeed. First year FO doesn’t qualify you for a mortgage on a house in a lot of the junior bases. That isn’t viable over the long haul.
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Originally Posted by Meekrob
(Post 3480796)
Forget buying a house, I can't even qualify for a 1 bed/bath in the bay area on first year pay. A 650 sqft apartment is $3000/month not including utilities in an area where you probably won't get shot walking to your car. 90k is well below the poverty line in the Bay Area. Average salary is about $150k
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So, newbie question here (start BI in a couple weeks). I see that there were only 4 total FO slots available for DCA and they were for WB. Does this mean that DCA slots (esp NB DCA slots) are going to be super hard to come-by?
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Originally Posted by jdm7999
(Post 3480817)
So, newbie question here (start BI in a couple weeks). I see that there were only 4 total FO slots available for DCA and they were for WB. Does this mean that DCA slots (esp NB DCA slots) are going to be super hard to come-by?
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Originally Posted by jdm7999
(Post 3480817)
So, newbie question here (start BI in a couple weeks). I see that there were only 4 total FO slots available for DCA and they were for WB. Does this mean that DCA slots (esp NB DCA slots) are going to be super hard to come-by?
Congrats on the job!. It’s a tumultuous time atm with the TA and ALPA drama on top of it being the silly season for ALPA National elections, but with that said I’ve really enjoyed 95% of the pilots I’ve flown with over the last 26ish years. Just a lot of people fed up with being told “We’ll get ‘em next time” on the contract. It’s now NEXT TIME |
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