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Originally Posted by Bestglide (Post 3553868)

Totally agree, but like national politics unfortunately s..t floats to the top. It’s truly hard to believe these guys are even being considered. Especially NS as he’s a narcissistic bloviating nasty individual that bullied and ran off many good folks from the other forum till he was finally kicked off. It’s now a much better place and so would our union be with out the likes of him.
Anyone but……including Snow White!

You obviously weren’t here during the Rick Dubinsky years lol. Ultimate narcissist who handled the strike and orchestrated C2000. Basically “He’s and assh0le but at least he’s our assh0le” type. Play nice and get along hasn’t worked out too well for 6 yrs has it? I’m not saying NS is the answer but replacing Insler/Hamilton with someone from the same mold may not be the answer either.

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Originally Posted by Lumberg823 (Post 3553863)

I can't believe with 14k pilots the 2 best that have tossed their hat into the ring are Gary and Neil...come on. If this is the best we have then we deserve what we get.

Unfortunately, the best pilots for the position of MEC Chair are the ones who are smart enough to stay away from it.

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Originally Posted by Steve Crewdog (Post 3553782)

Remember during the merger how the lUal pilots were lecturing the lCal guys how we didn't know what a REAL union was, and how the mighty UALALPA was going to straighten us CALALPA pilots out? I do.

Remember how the Blotivator kept complaining how the CoEx flow-through pilots had no business having jobs at a major airline and how inexperienced we were, blotivating over the fact that he came to United via an internship with only a few hundred hours total time, and had never been in anything faster than a GA prop before? I do. (I had over 11,000 hour TT when I started at lCal, including 5,000+ in a RJ as Captain.)

I thought there was a Draft AW movement going on? Even Jay Pierce would be better than the Blotivator.

i agree 100 percent

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3553871)

Dubo got C2K but it was doomed from the day it was signed. Even without 9/11 every analyst said it wasn’t sustainable and it wasn’t. Remember his golden goose comments? How did that work out for us? Lost our A plan, company nearly cratered after the summer of love. I certainly don’t want those dark days again. Having an A-hole as a leader screwed us badly in the past let’s not repeat that just because we got handed a bad TA. Move forward with experience from our past to keep us from making the same mistakes again.

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Originally Posted by Midsomer (Post 3553891)

Dubo got C2K but it was doomed from the day it was signed.

It was doomed because the APA voted no on a TA that would have more or less matched UAL & DAL then the dot.com implosion and 9/11 among other shocks happened.

But nice try.

We are doomed. Roaches are going to come out from the dark corners to feed.

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3553871)

The thought that NS might be just the A-hole we need right now did cross my mind last night. However he’s got such deep seated issues I don’t feel he’s stable enough to take on the position.

Not to mention the simmering piles of hate and discontent he’s left behind with his vitriol and free flowing hate filled mouth.

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3553871)

Well said.

Let’s not continue to conflate a-hole with effective leader.

I’d take a new hire over anyone’s name I’ve heard so far. Unless all you want to hear in MEC updates is HOW EVIL C34 IS.

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3553828)

I have never heard of this A plan rumor. I don’t put much stock in it. There are still too many of us who lost it all and have 0 faith in any plan we don’t have 100% control over. If you want your voice to count, it begins with electing reps at the LEC who will do their councils wishes and shoot straight. When they forget who they serve, recall is our only avenue. We’re almost done with the process now. I believe IAH was the last place where there was a push to change reps.

Don't be too hard on A-funds. They're a hell of a benefit if done right, but its crucial to understand the there is a difference between how a fund operates, the amount of money it actually has, its actual liabilities and what ERISA says it has to have. The problem is that last part, which is usually wildly inaccurate but is what drives legally required contributions that can run into the 9 figures.

In fact, we just saw another 1/2 pct jump in interest rates. For all the caterwauling in the business press, that's just taking rates back into low part of "normal" after a decade plus of essentially zero. It's starting to get into the realm of where the go-forward funding requirements drop off substantially and companies start to say "hmmm, I can set up a self funding plan rather than paying out real money every two weeks? Tell me more!".

If you don't understand how long term interest rates affect the "health" of DB plans, I suggest some reading up. The interesting part is how existing, surviving pension funds, which have been funded for years now assuming near zero interest, have their funding requirements change abruptly because of the rise in interest rates.