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horrido27 01-06-2023 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3565677)
Just a casual unsolicited observation from a Delta guy. It's really interesting reading this thread and noting the difference between how Delta guys view improving reserve vs United guys. At Delta there's a lot of support for improving reserve (which is already pretty good at Delta), but here there's seemingly zero. I wonder why there's such a difference?

To say that “there seemingly zero” support to IMPROVE reserve rules is categorically wrong. It might be what you interpret based on what you read on here, but it’s not the truth.
Not ONE pilot that I’ve met has stated they don’t want to “fix” the reserve rules. Not one.
Our ****ty reserve rules are the reason why we can fill Left Seat vacancies.

But therein lies the question- whose “responsibility” is it? The Pilot Group/union or managements?

Every United Pilot on property understands what needs fixing. Problem is, most hired in the past 10 years know the issues with current reserve rules, but may not understand the issues with other parts of the UPA that ALSO need fixing, ie..sick leave, LTD, Vacation credit, trip/duty rigs, retirement and of course.. PAY.

Our union tried to push the narrative that starting reserve on day 1 at 6am for an hour of Add Pay was a good thing. I Have NEVER met one commuter who wanted that, asked for that, or was voting YES for that.
Hopefully we will see good improvements in reserve, along with many other parts of our UPA.
If the company truly wants to be the leader of the pack, they HAVE TO LEAD.
Your (if you are a Delta Pilot) AIP sounds pretty good. But we have to wait till the TA to really get to the meat & potato part.
Hopefully ours will mirror yours (with some slight changes).
If not, I expect more pilots to pass on the upgrade, those with less than a few years here to jump ship and those with dual interviews to choose Delta.

Always
Motch

TransWorld 01-06-2023 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Random Task (Post 3565938)
You don't understand statistics.

He should look up MIL STD-105D (May be E or F by now) for statistically valid sampling size.

JTwift 01-06-2023 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3566065)
If not, I expect more pilots to pass on the upgrade, those with less than a few years here to jump ship and those with dual interviews to choose Delta.

Always
Motch

I have literally run into two pilots in the last three days who are leaving United for another airline (cough*Delta*) due to our reserve rules and “contract ineptitude”.

Gilligan13 01-06-2023 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3563444)
sucks for commuters, though, which a large portion of the pilots are.

and don’t say “just move to Jersey!” Because I can’t even remotely afford it and my wife would hate it.

Pennsylvania?

list 01-08-2023 09:18 AM

757 CA in 5 years? That's nothing, just heard Jr. Man 330 CA at Hawaiian is 5yr 8mo. Less than 6 years to WB CA pay, unreal.

AirportJunkie 01-08-2023 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by list (Post 3567135)
757 CA in 5 years? That's nothing, just heard Jr. Man 330 CA at Hawaiian is 5yr 8mo. Less than 6 years to WB CA pay, unreal.

The original question only asked about EWR. LAX 757 went to 1 year a couple of bids ago, and SFO 757 CA went unfilled on the last bid.

TFAYD 01-08-2023 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by AirportJunkie (Post 3567221)
The original question only asked about EWR. LAX 757 went to 1 year a couple of bids ago, and SFO 757 CA went unfilled on the last bid.

yeah but 756 in LAX/SFO is really only WB CA on paper. It’s all 757 and not even global.

AirportJunkie 01-08-2023 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3567308)
yeah but 756 in LAX/SFO is really only WB CA on paper. It’s all 757 and not even global.


You still have a chance of getting shipped of to EWR, that’s why it’s called the 756.


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