Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3570567)

GREAT Post.
I understand I get a bit of flak about "always" grouping pilots into 3 categories.. LUAL, LCAL and Post Merger.
History needs to be communicated here.

Prior to UPA2012, LCAL (to my understanding) did not have any sort of FSB. But I do believe we had "looser" Reassignment rules. At the same time, this was also pre 117 and I also don't think we were doing the long haul flying like we are doing now.
So, as Hedley asked- What is a solution?
I agree that FSB sucks. But why does it suck? Is it cause of the way scheduling arbitrarily assigns it? Is it because it doesnt give Add Pay? Is it because (as Pilots), some don't want to work on Reserve?
This discussion has shown that some actually don't mind it, some HATE it, and others (many) are indifferent to it.

I understand WHY we have it, just expect to be compensated for it. You put on your uniform and have to sit at the airport for a few hours, ok.. but it should net you some Add Pay (1hr).
Our Long Haul, International WideBody Trips net the company boocoo bucks (look it up, younger generation! LOL). Having a pilot(s) sitting FSB is their form of insurance. OK. But FUPM>
As someone mentioned- Would love to see the stats on
Bases breakdown on FSB
Fleets
Seats
And then, usage.

Ironically, when I look at EWR today, I see 4 pilots (on what I assume are FSB's- 13P & 10P) One A320 crew, and one 737/Guppy! crew.
Again, we can argue the merits of those 4 slots- but maybe it's a good deal for them if they get used.. or maybe it's a bad deal if they get used. Either way, they SHOULD have gotten 1 hour of ADD Pay (in my opinion) and there NEEDS to be transparency on those assignments.
Also a bit strange as they AREN'T the International stuff I thought they would be scared of canceling and need protecting. Maybe they are more worried about the massive Narrow Body flying we have and they just feel those 2 times are strategic for those aircraft..
Maybe something else we NEED to have is set FSB times and therefore, everyone knows.., m-f at 10am there's always a FSB on the the 73Guppy~ etc..

Till ILC23, be well..
Always
Motch

Originally Posted by WeiserTraffic (Post 3571828)

This would be one of the most important items to me if I were a prospective new hire. A huge part of QOL is schedule flexibility and to have a beautiful bright light at the end of the reserve tunnel is final piece most of us would need in order to see UAL as the obvious no-brainer destination.

Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3571916)

This affects everyone, not just reserves. The ability to trade and drop is predicated solely on the staffing of reserves. Definitely needs to be reigned in.

Originally Posted by WeiserTraffic (Post 3572138)

Agreed and this is exactly my point. I suppose I could’ve explained my thoughts a bit more clearly; the “beautiful bright light” would mean that after gaining enough seniority to hold a line, one could expect to be able to trade/drop since the new contract could specify rules for minimum reserve coverage. This would be a major win-win.

Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3572185)

Gotcha. Pass it on to your reps. The guys on the NC wouldn't know a trade or drop unless it had something to do with FTFPL.

Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3570567)

Prior to UPA2012, LCAL (to my understanding) did not have any sort of FSB.

Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3570567)

boocoo bucks (look it up, younger generation! LOL).

Originally Posted by Jersey (Post 3570745)

1 hr add pay for FSB didn't we just shoot that down in tumi TA. How about 5hr add pay and voluntary for SC and FSB maybe that'll get my vote. Line holder should get 5hr add pay for each leg reassigned until back on original schedule. Think bigger people.

Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3572860)

Voluntary Airport Standby (23.EE)
Offered, not forced. Seems it pays 3 hours if not used, 3 hours plus trip if used. 6 hours at the airport and need to depart immediately if used.

Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3572871)

Possible unpopular opinion, I think 3 hours & pay not dependent on used/unused is in the ballpark. The TUMI 1 hour would not have been worth my time, but I’d probably pick them up from time to time at 3/per.

Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3570567)

LCAL (to my understanding) did not have any sort of FSB.