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FlyingSlowly 01-14-2023 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Brickfire (Post 3570760)
This ^^^^
Corollary: What was true 6 months ago let alone 6 years ago is no longer true. There is not reliable information about what X choice will likely mean to your life 12 months hence.

But... if you bid 737/A320 and want to move to something bigger you can. If you bid 777 or 787 you're staying there two years.


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3571381)
What do you want to know about 756 EWR flying? It’s in my opinion some of the best flying in the system……. It’s all Europe with some domestic and trans cons mixed in. Because it’s EWR, if you commute to reserve up there. It will hurt, you will see short call conversions unless you aggressive pick up trips.

Before any new hire gets gung-ho about the 75/6 fleet, consider the corollary of the first statement. What's true now and what was true in the past will not be true 12 to 36 months in the future...

The 321XLRs and NEOs will change things. As will the increasing 787s. These deliveries will have the most profound effect on the 75/6 fleet.

aviator1998 01-14-2023 12:40 PM

DEN 787 flying? How long to get in there/hold a line? What kind of flying?

Swakid8 01-14-2023 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly (Post 3571389)
Before any new hire gets gung-ho about the 75/6 fleet, consider the corollary of the first statement. What's true now and what was true in the past will not be true 12 to 36 months in the future...

The 321XLRs and NEOs will change things. As will the increasing 787s. These deliveries will have the most profound effect on the 75/6 fleet.

This is very true, but it is safe we will not see major changes to the 756 fleet for the next 2 years in my opinion. The XLRs will not be on property for awhile. NEOs will not be on property in meaningful numbers for a couple years. Those 787s that were recently ordered will not be start showing up this year.

So 2 years. Then 756 folks will need to start looking to make moves.

snackysmores 01-14-2023 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Tangalanga (Post 3571297)
Hi everyone,

Gathering information about QOL in California, as a "new hire". I see the possible assignment of 737 LAX or SFO.
I'll be move to base, period.
Any big difference between these bases? ( type of flying/destinations, movement of seniority, cost of living, traffic to work, etc)
I will probably try to rent a place within 45"/1:15' driving time from the airport.
A friend is telling me that SFO is a big base for the 737, moving fast...and LAX is stagnant? Is SFO probably the best base to be a "line holder" during your first year?
Thank you!!!

Tangalanga

You aren't going to be able to afford living in the Bay Area or anywhere close to LAX on first year FO pay. That's assuming you don't want to live in a hood and risk getting shanked on your way to and from work.

JTwift 01-15-2023 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by aviator1998 (Post 3571396)
DEN 787 flying? How long to get in there/hold a line? What kind of flying?

To get in, maybe a couple years?

To hold a line? 485 years.

To hold Captain, just before the sun goes nova.

Tangalanga 01-15-2023 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 3571641)
You aren't going to be able to afford living in the Bay Area or anywhere close to LAX on first year FO pay. That's assuming you don't want to live in a hood and risk getting shanked on your way to and from work.

Thank you. I'm trying not to make my decisions based on "first year pay". I can deal with 12 months period with other resources. But no, I don't want to leave around a dangerous area.
I'm thinking that making the effort ( residing in an expensive area) the first year can be beneficial on the long term or near future (seniority progression and everything that comes with it mostly)
I gatter for what you say that there is not much difference between LAX and SFO?
Thanks

Tangalanga

KnightNight 01-15-2023 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by aviator1998 (Post 3571396)
DEN 787 flying? How long to get in there/hold a line? What kind of flying?

Denver is crazy senior on 787, a base trade could help but I wouldn’t gamble that. Best bet is bid 737/320 then bid 787 in Denver when you can. Another route is bid 787 , hope for base trade and after a year bid 787 instructor, but wouldn’t recommend that over route 1. The plane will always be there.

FlewNavy 01-15-2023 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3571756)
Denver is crazy senior on 787, a base trade could help but I wouldn’t gamble that. Best bet is bid 737/320 then bid 787 in Denver when you can. Another route is bid 787 , hope for base trade and after a year bid 787 instructor, but wouldn’t recommend that over route 1. The plane will always be there.

No need to be on the 787 fleet to apply (not bid) to be an instructor. Very common for people wanting to work at TK to apply to every single opening on every fleet. If another fleet likes you, they will get you trained and consolidated before starting the instructor syllabus.

KnightNight 01-15-2023 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3571768)
No need to be on the 787 fleet to apply (not bid) to be an instructor. Very common for people wanting to work at TK to apply to every single opening on every fleet. If another fleet likes you, they will get you trained and consolidated before starting the instructor syllabus.

True, I should have added that. Time in type is preferred tho 🤷🏻‍♂️

Hedley 01-15-2023 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3571768)
No need to be on the 787 fleet to apply (not bid) to be an instructor. Very common for people wanting to work at TK to apply to every single opening on every fleet. If another fleet likes you, they will get you trained and consolidated before starting the instructor syllabus.

Gotta love trying to learn an airplane from an instructor with very little experience actually flying it. To be an instructor there should be time in type requirement like there is to be a LCA.


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