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Sunvox 03-07-2023 04:20 AM

53 out of 91 vacancies unfilled. It would be nicer if it were 91 out of 91 then the general mood would be crystal clear to management, but it's a start.

SK are you listening?

The days of reassignments into days off, unending short calls, poor pay for training, etc. are over. Time to pay United pilots AND show them respect at work; otherwise staffing the Greatest Airline in the World won't be so easy.

APCHCLIMB 03-07-2023 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 3603315)
53 out of 91 vacancies unfilled. It would be nicer if it were 91 out of 91 then the general mood would be crystal clear to management, but it's a start.

SK are you listening?

The days of reassignments into days off, unending short calls, poor pay for training, etc. are over. Time to pay United pilots AND show them respect at work; otherwise staffing the Greatest Airline in the World won't be so easy.

You know what also would send a strong signal? Bid out of the left seat.

Instead of asking others to do the heavy lifting, put your $$$ where you mouth is if you have the courage of your convictions. “Captain”

iahflyr 03-07-2023 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3603162)
Being on reserve where you live isn’t nearly as bad… it’s 1000 times worse when you commute. IAH and CLE have enough guys who live there.

THIS! I never understand why people bid reserve when they have to commute. I am very happy at United, and I often bid reserve

hummingbear 03-07-2023 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB (Post 3603332)
You know what also would send a strong signal? Bid out of the left seat.

Instead of asking others to do the heavy lifting, put your $$$ where you mouth is if you have the courage of your convictions. “Captain”

Well now you’re just talking crazy. We all know sacrifice for the sake of the profession is the shared responsibility of those who went before us & those who come after.

BrianHackett 03-07-2023 07:57 AM

Why upgrading to 737 CA is the right move!

- 90 hour lines, 12 months of the year! Think of all that scratch. Forget about burnout, it doesn't exist. You will be more concerned about what color boat is best while spending most of your month in this modern spacious cockpit!

- Mental acuity. You may forget your anniversary and your kid's birthdays, but I guarantee you won't forget what day your seat lock is up!

Any other pros?

Otterbox 03-07-2023 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by BrianHackett (Post 3603429)
Why upgrading to 737 CA is the right move!

- 90 hour lines, 12 months of the year! Think of all that scratch. Forget about burnout, it doesn't exist. You will be more concerned about what color boat is best while spending most of your month in this modern spacious cockpit!

- Mental acuity. You may forget your anniversary and your kid's birthdays, but I guarantee you won't forget what day your seat lock is up!

Any other pros?

You can give your loved ones your business card as a present inside of company issued birthday cards along with the AA batteries you got from maintenance.

Sunvox 03-07-2023 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by BrianHackett (Post 3603429)
Why upgrading to 737 CA is the right move!

- 90 hour lines, 12 months of the year! Think of all that scratch. Forget about burnout, it doesn't exist. You will be more concerned about what color boat is best while spending most of your month in this modern spacious cockpit!

- Mental acuity. You may forget your anniversary and your kid's birthdays, but I guarantee you won't forget what day your seat lock is up!

Any other pros?

Don't forget you don't have to trouble yourself about days off 'cuz they don't really mean anything. The company can just roll you when they need to, and they might even pay you 5 hours for missing your son's game. How awesome is that?!?!

Hedley 03-07-2023 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by BrianHackett (Post 3603429)
Why upgrading to 737 CA is the right move!

- 90 hour lines, 12 months of the year! Think of all that scratch. Forget about burnout, it doesn't exist. You will be more concerned about what color boat is best while spending most of your month in this modern spacious cockpit!

- Mental acuity. You may forget your anniversary and your kid's birthdays, but I guarantee you won't forget what day your seat lock is up!

Any other pros?

Knowing that by the time that you can hold a line as a 737 captain, you could hold a line as a WB FO, work half as hard, more days off, and not much less pay.

at6d 03-07-2023 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 3603443)
Don't forget you don't have to trouble yourself about days off 'cuz they don't really mean anything. The company can just roll you when they need to, and they might even pay you 5 hours for missing your son's game. How awesome is that?!?!

You sure you aren’t WN management? LOL

hummingbear 03-07-2023 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3603456)
Knowing that by the time that you can hold a line as a 737 captain, you could hold a line as a WB FO, work half as hard, more days off, and not much less pay.

Now you’re hitting on something big. We ought to stop focusing on why the most junior pilots are passing on NBCA perma-reserve, and start asking ourselves why so many mid-upper seniority pilots who could be NBCA lineholders today are also passing on it. The obvious answer is that the amount of extra compensation is too frequently deemed not worth the extra work & responsibility.

I would never say WBFO is an overpaid seat, but I do think NBCA is an underpaid one. With such a massive influx of new pilots who are, on average, less experienced than anything this industry has seen in a long time, UAL should be focused not just on filling CA seats, but filing them with the most tenured, experienced pilots they can. A successful solution to this problem, in my opinion, would be junior NBCA returning to 60%-65%, not just figuring out a way to “catch” enough guys who weren't eligible on the previous run.


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