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RaginCajun 04-20-2023 06:20 PM

Just a couuupleee more weeks. An IL AIP is around the corner. /s

awax 04-20-2023 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp (Post 3626361)

I really don’t think Kirby (the Cross Dressing Weasel) cares about pilot morale, etc. All he cares about is the bottom line and right now he/she/they is winning.

If all you have is name calling (an amateur hour one at that), then you’ve already lost. Kindly **** and let union pilots do the heavy lifting for you.

Spartacusbob 04-20-2023 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 3626381)
Mitch… seriously, grow up.

I mean, he is not inaccurate. Kirby did dress as a woman one Halloween and weasel, considering his language of “industry leading” statement and lack of follow through also is accurate.

Dressing up as a woman for Halloween use to be funny but now, apparently, it’s a social values statement, and contextually it was meant as a put down, a pretty lame one though. Technically it’s another way to say mentally ill though, but I don’t think Mr Kirby has been diagnosed with body dismorphic disorder (DSM-5). So inaccurate there.

Look, the real issue is that he gave AWAX something to pearl clutch over. That’s the real crime here.

JurgenKlopp 04-20-2023 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Spartacusbob (Post 3627189)
I mean, he is not inaccurate. Kirby did dress as a woman one Halloween and weasel, considering his language of “industry leading” statement and lack of follow through also is accurate.

Dressing up as a woman for Halloween use to be funny but now, apparently, it’s a social values statement, and contextually it was meant as a put down, a pretty lame one though. Technically it’s another way to say mentally ill though, but I don’t think Mr Kirby has been diagnosed with body dismorphic disorder (DSM-5). So inaccurate there.

Look, the real issue is that he gave AWAX something to pearl clutch over. That’s the real crime here.

You sound like a guy who is very impressed that your union dues just went towards placarding a RV with CONTRACT FIRST, UNITED NEXT swag.

Mitch Rapp 04-20-2023 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3627168)
If all you have is name calling (an amateur hour one at that), then you’ve already lost. Kindly **** and let union pilots do the heavy lifting for you.

Haha! 🤦‍♂️. Some of you really need to take the proverbial stick out of your rear ends and lighten up. You really think because I called out Kirby out on his hypocrisy that we’ve “already lost”. Man, sit down and shut up.

Kirby has proven to be no better than Tilton and Smisek. He has lost all respect and proven himself to be a hypocrite and weasel. He talks out of both sides of his mouth while collecting millions for himself.

Nucflash 04-20-2023 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp (Post 3627196)
Kirby has proven to be no better than Tilton

He clearly needs a remedial lesson on who it was that stole L-UAL pensions back in the day.

ClappedOut145 04-21-2023 01:41 AM


Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp (Post 3627194)
You sound like a guy who is very impressed that your union dues just went towards placarding a RV with CONTRACT FIRST, UNITED NEXT swag.

What a waste of money. They’ll probably put a few 570’s on FPL to drive it around for $30k a month per person (augmented crew of course because you need four people on “long haul RV trips).

awax 04-21-2023 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp (Post 3627196)
Haha! 🤦‍♂️. Some of you really need to take the proverbial stick out of your rear ends and lighten up. You really think because I called out Kirby out on his hypocrisy that we’ve “already lost”. Man, sit down and shut up.

Kirby has proven to be no better than Tilton and Smisek. He has lost all respect and proven himself to be a hypocrite and weasel. He talks out of both sides of his mouth while collecting millions for himself.


I didn't say "we've" lost, I said YOU have lost. Go sit on the sidelines and mumble to yourself, the union pilots will do the heavy lifting for you. You're welcome.

PNWFlyer 04-21-2023 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by RaginCajun (Post 3622984)
SK speaking today at 1245 at TK.

Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, shouldn't we keep the PC on the QT? 'Cause of the leaks to the VC he could end up MIA, and then we'd all be put out in KP.

Giordano Bruno 04-21-2023 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3627427)
the union pilots will do the heavy lifting for you. You're welcome.

Toddlers are not union pilots

Buck Rogers 04-21-2023 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Giordano Bruno (Post 3627507)
Toddlers are not union pilots

Excuse Bruno(the Delta pilot) he gives us all a bad name. All seniority lists have the few. He can't contain his vitriol on the Delta boards so he has to come over here to troll.

Apologies on behalf of Delta.

Giordano Bruno 04-21-2023 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3627517)
Excuse Bruno(the Delta pilot) he gives us all a bad name. All seniority lists have the few. He can't contain his vitriol on the Delta boards so he has to come over here to troll.

Apologies on behalf of Delta.

Do you know what a "Toddler" is, in UALPA parlance? Clearly not. Try to keep up, bud

Spartacusbob 04-21-2023 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp (Post 3627194)
You sound like a guy who is very impressed that your union dues just went towards placarding a RV with CONTRACT FIRST, UNITED NEXT swag.

What’s not to like? It’s like our orange bag tags but you don’t have carry it and it has a bathroom. Way better use of our dues imo.

awax 04-22-2023 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Giordano Bruno (Post 3627527)
Do you know what a "Toddler" is, in UALPA parlance? Clearly not. Try to keep up, bud

Right “Toddler”. A name given by the Chicago faction of the all bark no bite group who will never miss an opportunity to insist that they know what’s best for ALPA - then the best they could do was Niels Swindells. That rabid group has zero credibility.

I’m pretty sure that 94% of United pilots voted that POS TA down and pretty well ignored attempts to bitterly divide United pilots.

Go circle your wagon around Wendy, I’m sure she’ll have your back. Maybe you missed it, but United Pilots did well with remove and replace and did so despite the garbage being spewed by your ilk.

jerryleber 04-22-2023 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3627861)
I’m pretty sure that 94% of United pilots voted that POS TA down and pretty well ignored attempts to bitterly divide United pilots.

United pilots were as almost as unified in recalling the Toddlers as they were in voting down that gang’s Tumi TA.

Spesiellsporing 04-23-2023 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3627861)
Right “Toddler”. A name given by the Chicago faction of the all bark no bite group who will never miss an opportunity to insist that they know what’s best for ALPA - then the best they could do was Niels Swindells. That rabid group has zero credibility.

I’m pretty sure that 94% of United pilots voted that POS TA down and pretty well ignored attempts to bitterly divide United pilots.

Go circle your wagon around Wendy, I’m sure she’ll have your back. Maybe you missed it, but United Pilots did well with remove and replace and did so despite the garbage being spewed by your ilk.


Bobby M, did they release you from the Thundedome?

Guppydriver95 04-23-2023 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Spesiellsporing (Post 3628011)
Bobby M, did they release you from the Thundedome?

He got his a$$ handed to him on another forum re his recall. I bet he lays low for a while.

awax 04-24-2023 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3628006)
United pilots were as almost as unified in recalling the Toddlers as they were in voting down that gang’s Tumi TA.

Funny how you have the nerve to mention the word “unified” after leading the charge to divide the pilot group and then champion Swindells. You have zero credibility Jerry.

Also, it’s amusing to see how you sidestep your participation in (trying) to divide United pilots with your hack “us against them” campaign. Here’s the full quote:


I’m pretty sure that 94% of United pilots voted that POS TA down and pretty well ignored attempts to bitterly divide United pilots.

Guppydriver95 04-24-2023 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3628399)
Funny how you have the nerve to mention the word “unified” after leading the charge to divide the pilot group and then champion Swindells. You have zero credibility Jerry.

Also, it’s amusing to see how you sidestep your participation in (trying) to divide United pilots with your hack “us against them” campaign. Here’s the full quote:


Ummm, noooo.

Im a line guy with no ALPA position. Simply an informed, aware voting member. The only “us vs them” was the small segment who thought the tumi TA was the “right deal at the right time” vs the 94% of us who said hell no. Todd lost his way, plain and simple, and became too focused on his own selfish pursuits to the detriment of his primary job-representing the pilots of United airlines. We have collectively spoken and shown him the door and elected new reps. That’s the way the system is supposed to work. Nobody cares that you don’t like Jerry. Give it a rest.

awax 04-24-2023 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3628422)
Ummm, noooo.

Im a line guy with no ALPA position. Simply an informed, aware voting member. The only “us vs them” was the small segment who thought the tumi TA was the “right deal at the right time” vs the 94% of us who said hell no. Todd lost his way, plain and simple, and became too focused on his own selfish pursuits to the detriment of his primary job-representing the pilots of United airlines. We have collectively spoken and shown him the door and elected new reps. That’s the way the system is supposed to work. Nobody cares that you don’t like Jerry. Give it a rest.

Maybe read who’s being quoted before responding, hint, it wasn’t you.

TA1 was turd? Congratulations you cracked the code?

Sniper66 04-24-2023 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3628479)
Maybe read who’s being quoted before responding, hint, it wasn’t you.

TA1 was turd? Congratulations you cracked the code?



TI should been article 8 for harming the pilots
I dont know why it was not brought up to the Executive board

they did him a favor I guess

Guppydriver95 04-24-2023 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3628479)
Maybe read who’s being quoted before responding, hint, it wasn’t you.

TA1 was turd? Congratulations you cracked the code?

perhaps you think you have a say in the rules of engagement of a forum? Hint:you don’t. I’ll respond to idiocy regardless of whom it’s quoting.

Guppydriver95 04-24-2023 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3628491)
TI should been article 8 for harming the pilots
I dont know why it was not brought up to the Executive board

they did him a favor I guess

I’m just glad we collectively woke up. Todd was a great grievance chairman. He was not a great MEC chair. Oops I responded to a post to another person. Hope awax doesn’t blow a gasket!

jerryleber 04-24-2023 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3628422)
Ummm, noooo.

Im a line guy with no ALPA position. Simply an informed, aware voting member. The only “us vs them” was the small segment who thought the tumi TA was the “right deal at the right time” vs the 94% of us who said hell no. Todd lost his way, plain and simple, and became too focused on his own selfish pursuits to the detriment of his primary

Right on the money. It is comical watching the Toddlers now disavow the Tumi TA now or all the dysfunction that allowed it to ever see the light of day.

awax 04-24-2023 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3628523)
Right on the money. It is comical watching the Toddlers now disavow the Tumi TA now or all the dysfunction that allowed it to ever see the light of day.

What’s comical is that you can’t post without “blah blah blah …Toddlers” when I call you out for the cancer to unity that you are.

Here’s a challenge - go back through every post and find my support for TI or TA1. You won’t. As is your norm, anyone who disagrees with you must be a “Toddler”.

Yet every virtually every post you make here is to throw shade at your political rivals, to lie, degrade, to do everything except to build unity.

One thing we agree on is TI was wrong and TA1 should have never seen the light of day. Both of our posts here will stand up to that scrutiny.

jerryleber 04-24-2023 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3628550)
throw shade at your political rivals

Political rivals? I haven't done ALPA work in three years and I have no idea who you are because you are hiding behind AWAX. Again, comical.


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3628550)
One thing we agree on is TI was wrong and TA1 should have never seen the light of day.

But yet you rail against transparency and accountability for the Toddlers. Sorry the recalls were the only way to fix our union and get a decent contract.

awax 04-25-2023 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3628560)
But yet you rail against transparency and accountability for the Toddlers. Sorry the recalls were the only way to fix our union and get a decent contract.

Support for anyone who brought the TA1 to the pilot group? You have me confused with someone else.

I did caution against a mob mentality and support thinking through what “ready, fire, aim” would get us. I still think that’s wise.

jerryleber 04-26-2023 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3628883)
I did caution against a mob mentality and support thinking through what “ready, fire, aim” would get us.

That characterization of the recall process is indicative of what I am talking about.


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