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Bestglide 05-19-2023 03:22 PM

Maybe we can take another survey……

hummingbear 05-19-2023 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 3638724)
Good lags the way.


Originally Posted by three1five (Post 3638818)
First Delta, then AA. United next.

These are excellent- we ought to get some stickers made.

BobbyLeeSwagger 05-19-2023 05:50 PM

Seriously! "All other contracts first, united next"

Finessed 05-19-2023 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3638809)
What will the posters say at the job fairs now? Worst legacy, but still better than Frontier?

There was never a randomness this past year to United's hiring department bizarrely skipping past plenty of qualified candidates over these no degree, low time, zero to hero ULCC/ACMI scrubs. They don’t want new hire pilots on property who know their worth.

The next step will be matching low costs carrier crew uniforms. Then the real United next, uneducated pilots flying low cost carrier pay rates charging legacy ticket prices. That’s Scotty boys actual definition of “competitive”.

CRJJ 05-19-2023 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Finessed (Post 3638915)
There was never a randomness this past year to United's hiring department bizarrely skipping past plenty of qualified candidates over these no degree, low time, zero to hero ULCC/ACMI scrubs. They don’t want new hire pilots on property who know their worth.

The next step will be matching low costs carrier crew uniforms. Then the real United next, uneducated pilots flying low cost carrier pay rates charging legacy ticket prices. That’s Scotty boys actual definition of “competitive”.

What is wrong with an ACMI pilot without a degree exactly? I’m one of them and sure know my worth. The level of arrogance, incredible.

Finessed 05-19-2023 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3638920)
What is wrong with an ACMI pilot without a degree exactly? I’m one of them and sure know my worth. The level of arrogance, incredible.

Just out of curiosity what’s your total time? Any left seat time? Just glanced over some of your previous posts. 2,200 total time, 0 left seat time, 0 mil experience, no degree, 0 recommendations.

Congratulations you nailed Scotty boys wish list for a pilot new hire. Now he just needs a couple more thousand for easy future yes votes.

Zerosilver84 05-19-2023 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Finessed (Post 3638921)
Just out of curiosity what’s your total time? Any left seat time?

Total time/left seat time/ or a college degree means nothing now.

And that's for United, Delta, and AA....

DownWithNarita 05-19-2023 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Finessed (Post 3638915)
There was never a randomness this past year to United's hiring department bizarrely skipping past plenty of qualified candidates over these no degree, low time, zero to hero ULCC/ACMI scrubs. They don’t want new hire pilots on property who know their worth.

Then the real United next, uneducated pilots

I'm sure you also have some strong opinions about women and minorities as well and are probably equally as bigoted.

BobbyLeeSwagger 05-19-2023 06:50 PM

I think folks that came up quickly know their worth maybe even more than previous gens. They have arrived in a fast moving and high paying environment. Expectations are different when you get here after having enjoyed the high pay of an RJ, or the great work rules of the LCCs (particularly spirit RE schedule flex), or the platinum elite DHr life of the ACMIs. When you get here it's like stepping back into the lost decade WRT work rules.

Don't write off the newly hired as Kool aid drinkers. I've seen the most apathy and Stockholm syndrome in my small corner of our pilot group with those who were early in their careers during the post 9/11 disaster this industry endured. And perhaps it's a well-earned apathy as they've been lied to more, seen more clown CEOs come and go, seen more plans fall through etc.

Bottom line, we cant be infighting still while it's contract season lol, we can fight amongst ourselves later!
Wear the lanyard and show up!

Finessed 05-19-2023 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by DownWithNarita (Post 3638928)
I'm sure you have some opinions about women and minorities as well.

You assumed incorrectly.


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