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Old 05-28-2023 | 10:07 AM
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Today’s maiden commercial flight of the C919 was a big success for China as they become more independent. With 42 pecent of Boeing planes going to Asia I am curious how this will pan out for Boeing. The plane looks like half airbus (sidestick, seat, and nose) and half boeing (dreamliner screens and headsup). It looks like the from scratch Max that should have been.
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Old 05-28-2023 | 11:03 AM
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Would love to see US aerospace thrive, but Boeing has rested on its laurels too long and milked old designs well past their expiration dates (737 needn't be discussed, and still no sidesticks in the 777/787? Really?). It was inevitable that China would seek self-sufficiency, so good luck to Boeing with their remaining markets.
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Old 05-28-2023 | 12:55 PM
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Airbus literally builds airbii in China like they do in Mobile, so this may have trickle down effects for them too. I believe the C919 uses an engine from the US?
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Old 05-28-2023 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Today’s maiden commercial flight of the C919 was a big success for China as they become more independent. With 42 pecent of Boeing planes going to Asia I am curious how this will pan out for Boeing. The plane looks like half airbus (sidestick, seat, and nose) and half boeing (dreamliner screens and headsup). It looks like the from scratch Max that should have been.
More cheap MAX for Scott Kirby to pickup and pay cash for instead of giving his pilots an industry leading contract…
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Old 05-29-2023 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Today’s maiden commercial flight of the C919 was a big success for China as they become more independent. With 42 pecent of Boeing planes going to Asia I am curious how this will pan out for Boeing. The plane looks like half airbus (sidestick, seat, and nose) and half boeing (dreamliner screens and headsup). It looks like the from scratch Max that should have been.
This plane was literally built through corporate espionage and the theft of intellectual property from both Boeing and Airbus. Yes, there are many components of the aircraft that are supplied by US and other foreign-based companies through standard legal purchase agreements. However, the US recently sentenced someone to 20 years in prison for attempting to supply China with information on GE engines. Right now China is working on its own version of these same foreign-supplied components to include the engines. Once they can copy these, China will slowly move away from using foreign suppliers for their own cheaper components. Then the jet can be marketed to developing countries and aviation sectors as a less expensive option than Airbus and Boeing…undercutting them both…and again making more of the world dependent on China.
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Old 05-29-2023 | 06:49 PM
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Considering how "well" the headphones I bought while on a Shanghai layover work, I'd be fairly concerned about the reliability of their new aircraft.
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Old 05-30-2023 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
This plane was literally built through corporate espionage and the theft of intellectual property from both Boeing and Airbus. Yes, there are many components of the aircraft that are supplied by US and other foreign-based companies through standard legal purchase agreements. However, the US recently sentenced someone to 20 years in prison for attempting to supply China with information on GE engines. Right now China is working on its own version of these same foreign-supplied components to include the engines. Once they can copy these, China will slowly move away from using foreign suppliers for their own cheaper components. Then the jet can be marketed to developing countries and aviation sectors as a less expensive option than Airbus and Boeing…undercutting them both…and again making more of the world dependent on China.
That works until a 250hr wonder kills 150 pax in some developing 3rd world country. The investigation is so white washed that it'll be hard to prove anyone was injured or killed by the end of it.

It's not a ****ty fighter/bomber that gets pulled out of the hangar for glory to the dictator day (and maybe dropping a few bombs on rebels that is a glorious 'success') and will never see another plane across a battlefield. An airliner actually gets used.
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Old 05-30-2023 | 08:53 AM
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Google “Flying upside down.” It’s a PDF book written by an expat that spent a few years flying in China. Aside from the fact the writer is hilarious, it’s pretty eye opening.
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Old 05-30-2023 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
That works until a 250hr wonder kills 150 pax in some developing 3rd world country. The investigation is so white washed that it'll be hard to prove anyone was injured or killed by the end of it.

It's not a ****ty fighter/bomber that gets pulled out of the hangar for glory to the dictator day (and maybe dropping a few bombs on rebels that is a glorious 'success') and will never see another plane across a battlefield. An airliner actually gets used.
That’s fine, they can just hire TI to go on record and blame it on poor piloting.
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Old 05-30-2023 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
This plane was literally built through corporate espionage and the theft of intellectual property from both Boeing and Airbus. Yes, there are many components of the aircraft that are supplied by US and other foreign-based companies through standard legal purchase agreements. However, the US recently sentenced someone to 20 years in prison for attempting to supply China with information on GE engines. Right now China is working on its own version of these same foreign-supplied components to include the engines. Once they can copy these, China will slowly move away from using foreign suppliers for their own cheaper components. Then the jet can be marketed to developing countries and aviation sectors as a less expensive option than Airbus and Boeing…undercutting them both…and again making more of the world dependent on China.
Sounds like the sukhoi super jet 2.0, and will likely suffer the same fate.
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