UAL pilot percentages
07-31-2023 | 07:15 AM
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UAL pilot percentages
Any UAL folks willing to share what percentage of the UAL ALPA pilot group is within the top band of your AIP (764 to 777), and what percentage of the pilot group is within the 321Neo to 763 band?
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07-31-2023 | 07:48 AM
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Also are you meaning 321neo as a lower bound to exclude 737-7/8 and a319/320?
07-31-2023 | 08:06 AM
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Trying to determine what percentages of UAL pilots fall into the top two AIP paybands.
Thought United might have a 767-400 specific bid category like Delta does with the "765" category, evidently not. I suppose it'd be the same with the 321neo/XLR not having its own bid category compared to the 319-321.
Again, appreciate any info!
Thought United might have a 767-400 specific bid category like Delta does with the "765" category, evidently not. I suppose it'd be the same with the 321neo/XLR not having its own bid category compared to the 319-321.
Again, appreciate any info!
07-31-2023 | 08:12 AM
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Tough to answer for a couple reasons, but I'll take a stab at it.
Currently 14% of the 756 flying is on the 764, so including 14% of the those folks as "WB pilots," I get roughly 1,600 WB CAs and 3,000 WB FOs. With roughly 16,000 on the list, I'd call about 10% of our pilots WB CAs and 20% WB FOs.
For your second question, I don't think the answer is as instructive or relevant today since we currently have zero A321 NEOs/XLRs on property, but obviously there will be significant growth there over the next few years. Today, though, the only people that fall into that new pay band are the remaining 86% of the 756 category, which is roughly 700 CAs and maybe 1000 FOs.
Currently 14% of the 756 flying is on the 764, so including 14% of the those folks as "WB pilots," I get roughly 1,600 WB CAs and 3,000 WB FOs. With roughly 16,000 on the list, I'd call about 10% of our pilots WB CAs and 20% WB FOs.
For your second question, I don't think the answer is as instructive or relevant today since we currently have zero A321 NEOs/XLRs on property, but obviously there will be significant growth there over the next few years. Today, though, the only people that fall into that new pay band are the remaining 86% of the 756 category, which is roughly 700 CAs and maybe 1000 FOs.
07-31-2023 | 08:43 AM
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Alrighty, here’s the breakdown in percentages. Our folks that fly the 757 also fly the 767 (there is no 763 vs. 764 pilots).
Bus/737: CA - 26.7% FO - 29.0% Total - 55.7%
756: CA - 5.5% FO - 8.2% Total - 13.7%
777/787: CA - 10.5% FO - 19.9% Total - 30.4%
Total pilots ~ 14,850
Bus/737: CA - 26.7% FO - 29.0% Total - 55.7%
756: CA - 5.5% FO - 8.2% Total - 13.7%
777/787: CA - 10.5% FO - 19.9% Total - 30.4%
Total pilots ~ 14,850
07-31-2023 | 09:21 AM
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Alrighty, here’s the breakdown in percentages. Our folks that fly the 757 also fly the 767 (there is no 763 vs. 764 pilots).
Bus/737: CA - 26.7% FO - 29.0% Total - 55.7%
756: CA - 5.5% FO - 8.2% Total - 13.7%
777/787: CA - 10.5% FO - 19.9% Total - 30.4%
Total pilots ~ 14,850
Bus/737: CA - 26.7% FO - 29.0% Total - 55.7%
756: CA - 5.5% FO - 8.2% Total - 13.7%
777/787: CA - 10.5% FO - 19.9% Total - 30.4%
Total pilots ~ 14,850
07-31-2023 | 12:42 PM
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767-400s are around 13% of the 757/767 fleet. They are almost exclusively flown by the most senior pilots in EWR and IAD.
So, approximately 32% of United pilots fly the highest paying planes. Likely to increase going forward, as DarkSide says.
So, approximately 32% of United pilots fly the highest paying planes. Likely to increase going forward, as DarkSide says.
07-31-2023 | 01:22 PM
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Seems like something that a yes voter over at FedEx would be asking to take back to the group so they could justify taking the non-widebody rates that were offered.
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