will pass 70-80%, just like the other two of the Big-3 did, AA and DAL.

likewise, the NO voters will all call the YES voters as

weak
caved in
"all about the money"
ignorant
misinformed
etc

with that said, good luck boys

I hope 94% yes
to shut the sell offs toddlers

BTW thanks Garth for stepping in

If you are playing the long game, a 94% YES vote will only make the next negotiation harder and more drawn out (if that is even possible).

What message do you think 94% YES sends?

Exactly. I voted hell no for the tumi TA but also voting no for this. Next time the company will say we gave the pilots too much if we vote it in 94%. I think it will pass by 90%. Plus, we deserve more.

Silly thought. Here we are 10 years on and talking about ‘the long game’. Geesh, hate to see what you’d define as the long game.

A 94 percent YES sends the message that we’re united as a group and won’t sell out for a measly $1.5B deal. TUMI TA continues to insult each of us!

All these guys fighting about how they’re voting Y or N & haven’t even seen the final language. An unfortunate representation of the majority, IMO- it’ll pass at over 80%. No doubt this is better than TUMI, but that alone doesn’t earn a YES vote. I have my concerns & I’ll be reading the full contract & asking questions of my reps. Try to make an educated vote & not an emotional one.

That will probably depend on the language that allows the company to fill Captain vacancies at their will…

The company seems to have no issue with new Captains at a major being paired with brand new F/O’s who theoretically have never been a Captain, and having very little turbine time, period. I know Kirby is desperate for this United next thing, but we need to take a good look at how hard we’re pressing the accelerator here. Having said all that, I’m sure most will simply turn to section 3, ignore the rest, and vote yes. Same as it ever was.

Those pairings are biting Delta in the ass. I doubt it will be different at UAL. The incident trend line at both UAL and Delta is scary at best.

FYI
1995 or close to that era
captain upgrade 2-3 years
FOs interns with 250 hours