I don't think it will pass the Mec. I think they are going to kick it back to tweak 3 or 4 items. I see 4 no votes just based on political climber types alone and all it would take is a few more bases to sour on the deal. If it happens to pass the MEC I think it will pass 65-35.

By the time the newhire assigned a captain slot got out of training, flew 350 hrs in the right seat, goes through full course upgrade training, and then flies 100 hrs of Captain ioe almost everyone would be ready. A lot of airlines have first year upgrades without 100 hrs of ioe and I don't see check airman here signing someone off who isn't ready. I don't love it but I think it is a lot to do about nothing in the grand scheme of things. Throwing LTD people that are already out under the bus, 95 hr cap with a sick call, reduced premium pay for senior FO's... all rub me wrong. I am a soft yes but still working through it.

The schedule in LOA23-01 says that they can't start training until August 2024. It does not say that the positions can't show up in a drop until August 2024. Big difference. There needs to be more clarification on this as the language in the implementation schedule is vague.

Well now we’ve gone from “commuting & reserve are a choice” to “applying here is a choice”. Keep lowering that bar, my friend.

you do realize it’s the same MEC that approved the AIP (unanimously?) after getting briefed by the negotiating committee a month ago. If they vote this down those who voted NO will be recalled and this whole process will stretch through next year.

👆 bingo. If passed, this will be put into motion immediately and forced captains will begin training in August ‘24.

fixed it 4 u

I'm a YES.

I have voted no on about 50% of the contracts including the mid-term wage agreement, which passed 87% yes. Many of my friends who routinely vote no tell me they are all YES.

Its a great contract. Not perfect, but its great. Much better than current book.

That's dizzying. Bolds are mine. I compute what you wrote to mean that it's really just good enough for you. Which is ok to say.

I’m voting no because a group of boisterous blowhards hijacked the forums and booted damn near everyone out under the guise that their newly appointed regime would bring amazing change and a truly industry leading contract. A year later we have a replacement worker in a position at ALPA national, and a TA that doesn’t stack up to what they swore they would get us.

Even that psychopath SW and her anti-vax jugheads are unhappy with the TA.

I lol’ed…..