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Old 11-15-2023 | 08:57 PM
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Asking for a friend,

What would seniority progression look like for someone starting at United in January 2024, and turning 39 a few months later? System wide and within the Chicago base?

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Old 11-15-2023 | 10:25 PM
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Same question for someone who just turned 52 and looking at either SFO or EWR.
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Old 11-16-2023 | 02:22 AM
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Current Roster - approx 16,000 pilots

Projected retirements
5 years - 3K
10 years - 6K
15 years - 8K

United has big growth plans. 28,000 pilots has been proposed, though that's not widely believed. Something like 20K is more likely as new planes are delivered and regional volume declines.

Coastal bases have rapid progression for new FO's as people redistribute, but good assignments (ie lineholder weekends off) have less variation base to base.
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Old 11-16-2023 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
Current Roster - approx 16,000 pilots

Projected retirements
5 years - 3K
10 years - 6K
15 years - 8K

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you guys are only at 16k pilots? I thought you were closer to 18k

about a year ago you had 1k more than us (DL) and it seems like you have been hiring just as much since then (about 200/month)
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Old 11-16-2023 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
you guys are only at 16k pilots? I thought you were closer to 18k

about a year ago you had 1k more than us (DL) and it seems like you have been hiring just as much since then (about 200/month)
Depends how you count it with people on various leaves, etc., but I show the highest seniority number today at just over 16,900.
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Old 11-16-2023 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PK387
Depends how you count it with people on various leaves, etc., but I show the highest seniority number today at just over 16,900.
Almost the same here. Our list is 16,700 as of the first class in November. (Total pilots, not just active)
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Old 11-16-2023 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PK387
Depends how you count it with people on various leaves, etc., but I show the highest seniority number today at just over 16,900.
Seniority numbers are updated annually so variably overstate the active pilot count the other 364 days/year. Actual number probably mid 16's
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Old 11-16-2023 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
Seniority numbers are updated annually so variably overstate the active pilot count the other 364 days/year. Actual number probably mid 16's
Good point. Looks like we're retiring about 30 a month right now, so I bet we're neck and neck with DAL.
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Old 11-16-2023 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PK387
Good point. Looks like we're retiring about 30 a month right now, so I bet we're neck and neck with DAL.
one more year of “low” retirement numbers then we are off to the races
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Old 11-16-2023 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
one more year of “low” retirement numbers then we are off to the races
Unless 67 passes and the races are delayed 2 years.
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