Still have a chance?
 

Hi Guys,
My question is along the same lines. I am a 3200 Hr 135/91 guy with lots of PIC turbine and a good amount of PIC jet but no 121. I put in an app about 4 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Am i competitive yet in the current environment? Should i just keep updateing it and see what happens? Thanks.

it’s the holiday season. Yes, you’re competitive. Be patient.

Youre competitive. You'll just need to do something to get their attention. Go to a job fair, or go work for a competitor of that doesn't work.

This. Show your face.

Define 'lots of turbine PIC' and a 'good amount of PIC jet'? How much 135 time? What type or aircraft? They like 500 hrs TPIC and REALLY like 1000 hrs TPIC. But in general those candidates are getting hired quicker. Hopefully you have apps in to a half dozen operators who'd be better destination jobs than your current gig?

With 3200 hrs and enough applications out you should be contacted unless there's stuff you're holding back. Maybe not the carrier of your choice but a resume improving, and possible destination job, should find you in the near term. But 4 weeks since you applied is a short time. A regional might call you in a week but that doesn't mean the majors rate your resume as highly as they're getting plenty of 3000+ hr applications.

Thanks for the feedback. I've got around 1800TPIC ( a mix of CItation XL, King Air 350 and Pilatus PC6 ) and about 800Hr 135. I've got apps in at several places. Sounds like I just need to be patient yet and keep working on building a resume.

this needs to be sticky in every carriers sub-forums as well….

Not specific to UA since I, and many, don't know exactly what they're after. I volunteered at AA recruiting and only the top people knew the details. We'd randomly hear very very small details but knew nothing about the big picture. We could ask the insiders and I had them say "we don't give advice....but that's good advice that you just mentioned."

I'll rewrite your info -

3600 TT
1800 TPIC in 3 different a/c
2 type ratings.

800 hrs Part 135

How much TPIC in each type? I've heard a friend very high up in the pilot hiring food chain say "we're not getting guys with TPIC time. Or it's PC-12 time." I don't know if they don't count SEL TPIC time or if they, or just he, doesn't rate it as highly. Or if it's an opinion/observation that he has that the system doesn't care about?

How flexible/mobile are you? Can you pull chocks and move to improve your resume? Compare that to the hours you're getting now. I'd look at the regionals offering quick upgrades once you get 1000 hrs of qualfiying time. They'd hire you with 950 hrs qualifying time for a rapid/direct entry upgrade. I'd ask the regional airlines directly if your TPIC and Part 135 time qualifies. If it does you're already above the TPIC trigger lines of 500/1000 hrs TPIC.

IMO the thing that stands out that you can do that would improve your resume is - go through a Part 121 school, fly a bigger jet, get a new type rating and possibly get 121 TPIC time in a couple of months (6-12?). You're already 'qualified', and might be considered 'highly qualified' (1000 hrs TPIC) if all your TPIC time is considered qualifying. Look at the 'holes' in your resume vs what others have and figure out if you can add what they have to your resume. Look 3, 6, 12 months in the future and make resumes for those time periods. Do that for your current job vs pursuing other jobs. Does doing more CItation XL, K350, of PC-6 time improve your resume? At what point is it just more ground hog time on your resume if you meet the general minimums (3000 hrs TT/500 or 1000 hrs TPIC)?

2900 TT
A320, 75/767 types
500 turbine
1200ish PIC @ 135 operation
4 year degree
0 checkride fails

Anyone with similiar times know if that's enough for a call? I know my turbine is pretty low, but I'm working on it.

They (non specific airline generalization) like to see 500 or 1000 hrs TPIC. 'Like' isn't the minimum as those candidates get fewer and fewer.

The drop off in hiring by the LCC's, and perhaps some other carriers, might increase the average/typical minimum standards in the coming months/year(s).

I'd guess you're in the low end of the range *but* above the minimums based on the lower edge of the people getting major airline jobs.

Fly as much as you can, on anything, and update at least every month. TPIC/turbine/large jet would be best but everything tacked on helps. If you're not above the numbers the computer program is looking for you're darn close. Every update might be the triggering event.

Good luck.