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Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3772446)
Sounds like money well spent. Stress free commuting and living exactly where you and your family want to is worth it.
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Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 3772298)
Still an awful idea if you live in NM and don't want to move. AA is better (1x nonrev or JS attempt, no $ ticket required), it's also driveable to Phoenix.
I get that paid tickets work for some people in some locations. That still doesn't take away from the main suck of commuting, which is the uncertainty and time sink of it. What if your paid ticket gets delayed and now you miss your trip? Sure, you don't get a missed trip on your record, but you still lose the pay AND you paid for a ticket. How about if you get delayed on the way back and miss your return trip? Now you still have to book a hotel and waste another day finding your way back home. In the OP's case, working for AA makes more sense in every way. That's what I'm responding to, not the dumb replies from guys who didn't bother to even read the OP. |
Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3772446)
Sounds like money well spent. Stress free commuting and living exactly where you and your family want to is worth it.
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 3772450)
Or just don’t stress. People act like them not making it into work is going to make a nuclear bomb explode somewhere in the rainforest.
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Originally Posted by JFS 3
(Post 3772451)
That is some amazing gymnastics. Driving from Albuquerque to Denver is 30 minutes more than driving to PHX. And there are 7 direct flights from ABQ to DEN each day. "Makes more sense in every way..." Are you a paid shill for AA recruiting? 🤣
Paid shill, now that's funny. Believe it or not, I can simultaneously work for UA and also not think it's ideal for every person in every scenario. That's probably mind blowing to you, but it is what it is. |
Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 3772283)
Oh yeah, just buy a ticket for every pairing the next 20-35 years of your life. What a great solution 🙄.
You're not very smart, are you? What I said was 100% factual. It's why I live in base and still work for UAL. Commuting on UAL didn't work for me. The reality is you're not willing to move, this airline is worse. It has a worse commuter policy. If commuting doesn't bother you, it won't matter either way. If it does bother you, and you want predictability in JS availability, DAL and AA are better due to above stated reasons. |
Originally Posted by GPullR
(Post 3772600)
What you say is NOT 100% factual at all. You can be bumped up to door closing time by somebody senior off the JS,not 1 hour prior.
The point was that you can be bumped at the last minute by a guy who's senior, even if you've put in for that JS a week prior to let everyone know your intent. That's a problem that exists only at UAL that you wouldn't have at AA/DAL. It makes commuting more stressful, especially in a city where there's a cadre of senior guys who can and will show up at the last minute to bump you. Thankfully, the majority of senior dudes would list ahead of time when I was still commuting, so I knew what flights I was likely to make and not, but the *******s who pull up to the gate at the last minute and bump you off your commute definitely exist. One of them just did it on my flight I was operating to a junior dude, kicking the kid off right as we were boarding. His words: "sucks to suck". Again, I'm simply reiterating why another company MIGHT (not necessarily will be) better if you're going to plan on commuting for your 121 career. Having a reserved jumpseat, better call-out times, 1x required flights instead of 2x, those all go a long way in reducing stress and increasing predictability. |
Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 3772625)
So it's worse than what I said. Congrats for making my point for me.
The point was that you can be bumped at the last minute by a guy who's senior, even if you've put in for that JS a week prior to let everyone know your intent. That's a problem that exists only at UAL that you wouldn't have at AA/DAL. It makes commuting more stressful, especially in a city where there's a cadre of senior guys who can and will show up at the last minute to bump you. Thankfully, the majority of senior dudes would list ahead of time when I was still commuting, so I knew what flights I was likely to make and not, but the *******s who pull up to the gate at the last minute and bump you off your commute definitely exist. One of them just did it on my flight I was operating to a junior dude, kicking the kid off right as we were boarding. His words: "sucks to suck". Again, I'm simply reiterating why another company MIGHT (not necessarily will be) better if you're going to plan on commuting for your 121 career. Having a reserved jumpseat, better call-out times, 1x required flights instead of 2x, those all go a long way in reducing stress and increasing predictability. |
Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 3772625)
So it's worse than what I said. Congrats for making my point for me.
The point was that you can be bumped at the last minute by a guy who's senior, even if you've put in for that JS a week prior to let everyone know your intent. That's a problem that exists only at UAL that you wouldn't have at AA/DAL. It makes commuting more stressful, especially in a city where there's a cadre of senior guys who can and will show up at the last minute to bump you. Thankfully, the majority of senior dudes would list ahead of time when I was still commuting, so I knew what flights I was likely to make and not, but the *******s who pull up to the gate at the last minute and bump you off your commute definitely exist. One of them just did it on my flight I was operating to a junior dude, kicking the kid off right as we were boarding. His words: "sucks to suck". Again, I'm simply reiterating why another company MIGHT (not necessarily will be) better if you're going to plan on commuting for your 121 career. Having a reserved jumpseat, better call-out times, 1x required flights instead of 2x, those all go a long way in reducing stress and increasing predictability. You want to commute? That's fine, but there can be complications. |
Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
(Post 3774042)
I will remind you, and all the non-UAL commuters, the jump seat is not yours. It is the Captains. UAL jumpseat is usually governed by senioriety. Everyone knows this. To claim getting bumped off your seat is disingenuous. It is not your seat at any point. You say it is a problem, I say those are the way the rules work at UAL. Plan accordingly.
You want to commute? That's fine, but there can be complications. |
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