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Bahamasflyer 02-26-2024 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by jtwift (Post 3772643)
i’m not sure i’d have let the “sucks to suck” guy on my jumpseat. Pretty sure i could explain the rationale to the cpo if it came to that. No reason for that comment or attitude.

^^^this right here^^^

fostro 02-26-2024 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 3774042)
I will remind you, and all the non-UAL commuters, the jump seat is not yours. It is the Captains. UAL jumpseat is usually governed by senioriety. Everyone knows this. To claim getting bumped off your seat is disingenuous. It is not your seat at any point. You say it is a problem, I say those are the way the rules work at UAL. Plan accordingly.

You want to commute? That's fine, but there can be complications.

Agree 100%, always "Plan for the worst, hope for the best"

That said, thank you 2217 crew for the ride! Gotta love the 787-9, 8D is better than my apartment! lol

In Unity...

But seriously 03-02-2024 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by fostro (Post 3774128)
Agree 100%, always "Plan for the worst, hope for the best"

That said, thank you 2217 crew for the ride! Gotta love the 787-9, 8D is better than my apartment! lol

In Unity...

I’m not sure I’d put something quite this identifiable on an anonymous forum…

TurquoiseLine 03-02-2024 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3776135)
I’m not sure I’d put something quite this identifiable on an anonymous forum…

I don’t think he cares. I think he’s pretty vocal on the HAL subforum

fostro 03-03-2024 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3776135)
I’m not sure I’d put something quite this identifiable on an anonymous forum…

Yes, good point someone could track flight 2217, it only operated +800 times. LOL

Got Time, in Unity...

Guppydriver95 03-03-2024 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3772643)
I’m not sure I’d have let the “sucks to suck” guy on my jumpseat. Pretty sure I could explain the rationale to the CPO if it came to that. No reason for that comment or attitude.

you wouldn’t have to explain a thing to the Cpo. Garry Kravit and the jumpseat committee have codified the strongest language in the industry wrt the Captain’s autonomy in administering the jumpseat as he sees fit. Yes, there is a jumpseat priority list in the FOM, but a Captain can modify it if he chooses to (must rides such as FAA excepted). Shortly after the merger, CAL scabs ran to CPO’s around the system whining about being denied jumpseats. The outcome? Too bad for the scabs, it’s the Captain’s jumpseat.

Having said that, our seniority based system can be challenging for junior commuters. I suppose there isn’t a perfect system anywhere, but I’m glad our system follows the same philosophy as the rest of the career, which is “seniority is king”

guppie 03-03-2024 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3776382)
“seniority is king”


amen and hallelujah

ThumbsUp 03-03-2024 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3776382)
you wouldn’t have to explain a thing to the Cpo. Garry Kravit and the jumpseat committee have codified the strongest language in the industry wrt the Captain’s autonomy in administering the jumpseat as he sees fit. Yes, there is a jumpseat priority list in the FOM, but a Captain can modify it if he chooses to (must rides such as FAA excepted). Shortly after the merger, CAL scabs ran to CPO’s around the system whining about being denied jumpseats. The outcome? Too bad for the scabs, it’s the Captain’s jumpseat.

Having said that, our seniority based system can be challenging for junior commuters. I suppose there isn’t a perfect system anywhere, but I’m glad our system follows the same philosophy as the rest of the career, which is “seniority is king”

I much prefer our system over having to be the first person to press book/check-in. Plans change all the time—it’s nice to know that the jumpseat is an option if I’m the most senior in line.

nemich 03-03-2024 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3776470)
I much prefer our system over having to be the first person to press book/check-in. Plans change all the time—it’s nice to know that the jumpseat is an option if I’m the most senior in line.

Until someone senior walks in right before departure time…
Done both on south Florida to NYC route and the one with check in time definitely helps you a lot - if you not senior enough to book it - use other options or buy ticket, everything is transparent. If we would have at least mandatory listing - that would help junior pilots.

SoFloFlyer 03-03-2024 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by nemich (Post 3776478)
Until someone senior walks in right before departure time…
Done both on south Florida to NYC route and the one with check in time definitely helps you a lot - if you not senior enough to book it - use other options or buy ticket, everything is transparent. If we would have at least mandatory listing - that would help junior pilots.

Nothing more disheartening than being the only one in line for the JS on an oversold flight only to get bumped by a senior pilot 5 prior to boarding


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