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Shrek 05-07-2024 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3799437)
So back on topic.

I seem well qualified but was turned down after interviewing in February. Junior ULCC captain, nearly 5000 Part 121, BS degree, good flying and employment record, and live 30 minutes from Newark.
The interview objectively went well. What do you think, just keep on doing what I'm doing and try again next year? Because of the slowdown in hiring has it become harder for non-military/Aviate people to get hired?

Short answer is yes try again......maybe invest in some interview prep like Cage Consulting etc. before your next interview.

And no the interview did not go well if there was no job offer. An interview prep course hopefully will shed some light on why.

TurquoiseLine 05-07-2024 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3799437)
So back on topic.

I seem well qualified but was turned down after interviewing in February. Junior ULCC captain, nearly 5000 Part 121, BS degree, good flying and employment record, and live 30 minutes from Newark.
The interview objectively went well. What do you think, just keep on doing what I'm doing and try again next year? Because of the slowdown in hiring has it become harder for non-military/Aviate people to get hired?

Your self reflection is off. If you did not get hired, your interview did not good well. United has a 100% hiring opportunity.

Did you do interview prep?

Seven3guy 05-07-2024 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Ni hao (Post 3797987)
The question they will ask is WHY do you not have any college. Assuming you can get that far.

Really? They would ask that? Is it a barrier to entry when the demand for pilots is low? Or a true metric of a quality aviator? Or maybe a combination of both?

I know for certain over the past 2 years (hiring wave) the goal post was very close to the applicant.

A lot of times it's financial. Some folks had to choose between flight training or a degree.
Just a thought...

60av8tor 05-07-2024 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Seven3guy (Post 3799564)
Really? They would ask that?

Of course they would. You only been around for the last couple of years?


Originally Posted by Seven3guy (Post 3799564)
Is it a barrier to entry when the demand for pilots is low? Or a true metric of a quality aviator? Or maybe a combination of both?

Of course a degree, by and large, isn't reflective of raw ability as an aviator. It is, however, in a GENERAL sense reflective of certain abilities when looking at the whole-person concept. Yes, I know plenty of people with BAs in basket weaving, too.


Originally Posted by Seven3guy (Post 3799564)
I know for certain over the past 2 years (hiring wave) the goal post was very close to the applicant.

yeah, a lot of things have happened the past couple years that deviate from the norm. Requiring a degree being one of those things.


Originally Posted by Seven3guy (Post 3799564)
A lot of times it's financial. Some folks had to choose between flight training or a degree. Just a thought...

Then that's what you tell an interviewer if asked...

OffAtTango 05-14-2024 08:01 AM

Buddy got an email from United that stated:

“We are reaching out to advise that your application has reached a point in our selection process of restricted review, however please be rest assured that you will have an opportunity at a later time to access and update your application.”

That was back in March and he hasn’t heard anything since. Anyone receive something similar and get an invite?

grumpycurmudgeo 05-14-2024 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by OffAtTango (Post 3802299)
Buddy got an email from United that stated:

“We are reaching out to advise that your application has reached a point in our selection process of restricted review, however please be rest assured that you will have an opportunity at a later time to access and update your application.”

That was back in March and he hasn’t heard anything since. Anyone receive something similar and get an invite?

the next one might be a leadership inventory assessment?

Dream 05-15-2024 03:02 PM

I went to TPNx and talked to a recruiter and they told me 7000TT is competetive right now.

I currently have 3600TT/ 1000TPIC, aviation degree, 2 internals, B-737 type. No bites yet, have been applying for the past 2-3yrs for an extra data point.

TiredSoul 05-15-2024 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Dream (Post 3802747)
I went to TPNx and talked to a recruiter and they told me 7000TT is competetive right now.
.

Dayuuum that’s harsh.

SCT3600 05-16-2024 06:46 AM

[QUOTE=Dream;3802747]I went to TPNx and talked to a recruiter and they told me 7000TT is competetive right now.

I currently have 3600TT/ 1000TPIC, aviation degree, 2 internals, B-737 type. No bites yet, have been applying for the past 2-3yrs for an extra data point.[/QUOTE

i recently just got a CJO this month with 2700 TT and 80TPIC with 0 internal recommendations, so I guess it's not really 7000TT LOL

Excargodog 05-16-2024 07:03 AM

[QUOTE=SCT3600;3802900]

Originally Posted by Dream (Post 3802747)
I went to TPNx and talked to a recruiter and they told me 7000TT is competetive right now.

I currently have 3600TT/ 1000TPIC, aviation degree, 2 internals, B-737 type. No bites yet, have been applying for the past 2-3yrs for an extra data point.[/QUOTE

i recently just got a CJO this month with 2700 TT and 80TPIC with 0 internal recommendations, so I guess it's not really 7000TT LOL


Logically the entire thread topic is ridiculous. OK, I get that it's emotional and it's hard not to get invested in such a topic, but really - logically - it makes no difference.

Should someone apply to a job they want? Well hell yes, how else are they going to get it? To get ANY job they are going to have to apply. So when do you apply? Equally obvious - you apply when you meet the minimum listed criteria to qualify. And you apply EVERYWHERE that would be an improvement in career prospects from your current job that you would be willing to take. Why not? Multiple apps are mostly cut and paste. Some you'll already be competitive for, some you'll need to just keep updating until you build the experience to be competitive - a cutoff that varies from month to month - even day-to-day, by what OTHERS are applying and how screwed up Boeing happens to be currently, things you have no control over whatsoever.

As Wayne Gretzky said, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."


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