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Ghost 7X7 05-09-2024 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by D0zingfordollar (Post 3800604)
Don't see 330's making too much sense unless we're reeeally worried about 787 having delivery issues. Now, the 350, especially 350 1k gives us a 777 replacement and range no other jet has. An airframe to introduce rumored new luxury Polaris product. As well as the all so important fleet diversification we need. Imo, a successful formula for future is 50/50 737/320 family, and 50/50 787/350 family. Variants of such to try to puzzle together 756 replacement. Hope we get 350!!

The A330-900 makes sense only as a high density domestic airframe (for a carrier like United). Each case is different

Swakid8 05-10-2024 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by Claybird (Post 3800701)
The A330-900 makes sense only as a high density domestic airframe (for a carrier like United). Each case is different

Naw, it doesn't make sense at all for United to have a small sub-fleet of WB aircraft for domestic work that has separate pilot group from a business/operation point of view.... It only make sense from our point of view though....

C11DCA 05-11-2024 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by Claybird (Post 3800700)
No. These were:

https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/p...atlantic-route

https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/p...21neo-aircraft

From the second link:

Herndon, Virginia, 29 June 2021 - United Airlines has placed an order for 70 Airbus A321neo aircraft, positioning the airline to grow its presence in the single-aisle market in alignment with its “United Next” initiative. The new order complements existing orders from United for 50 A321XLR aircraft, bringing the total commitment from the airline to 120 A321 aircraft.

50 A321XLR in 2019
70 A321neo in 2021

(Bold mine)

yes those were the original two orders

but they have since ordered another 60 in 2023 and leased another 35 in 2024. So we must be willing to pay the price is the price currently.

D0zingfordollar 05-11-2024 01:13 PM

Without 321xlr being good replacement for shallow Europe (looking that way) gotta think we are gonna need more than expected small WB lift. Might need some 330's to patch that hole, or use smaller 787's on that and fill the top lift with 350's. Either way, don't really see our needs being met by Boeing the way it looks now.

Excargodog 05-11-2024 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by D0zingfordollar (Post 3801422)
Without 321xlr being good replacement for shallow Europe (looking that way) gotta think we are gonna need more than expected small WB lift. Might need some 330's to patch that hole, or use smaller 787's on that and fill the top lift with 350's. Either way, don't really see our needs being met by Boeing the way it looks now.

Sadly, yes. Boeing has been slowly going to cr@p for well over a decade. It won't be fixed in just a year or two.

Ghost 7X7 05-12-2024 01:26 AM

Well, FAA to the rescue(?) again...

https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/...158236.article

US regulators are formally seeking comment on proposed fire-safety conditions to accept the large aft centre fuel-tank design for Airbus’s long-range A321XLR twinjet.

...

But the US FAA is concerned that the tank’s location and design means it is directly exposed to potential post-crash ground fuel-fed fires, unlike centre wing tanks or optional auxiliary centre tanks.

Excargodog 05-12-2024 08:21 AM

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Can't help but wonder given the pi$$-poor regulating of Boeing they've been doing why they would worry about something that MIGHT happen in the event of a statistically unlikely event. I mean door plugs are pressurized on damn near every flight. Failing to bolt them in place makes every flight a potential disaster. How often are you going to have a crash that would be otherwise survivable but for the loss of integrity of an integral aft fuselage fuel tank?

TFAYD 05-12-2024 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3801663)
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Can't help but wonder given the pi$$-poor regulating of Boeing they've been doing why they would worry about something that MIGHT happen in the event of a statistically unlikely event. I mean door plugs are pressurized on damn near every flight. Failing to bolt them in place makes every flight a potential disaster. How often are you going to have a crash that would be otherwise survivable but for the loss of integrity of an integral aft fuselage fuel tank?[/QUOTE]

to earn back their reputation as a diligent regulator?

to not let Airbus get ahead too much and to protect American jobs?

fostro 05-12-2024 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3801723)

Can't help but wonder given the pi$$-poor regulating of Boeing they've been doing why they would worry about something that MIGHT happen in the event of a statistically unlikely event. I mean door plugs are pressurized on damn near every flight. Failing to bolt them in place makes every flight a potential disaster. How often are you going to have a crash that would be otherwise survivable but for the loss of integrity of an integral aft fuselage fuel tank?


Good Points, obviously the "Regulatory FAA" hasn't been on their game for some time now. Very similar to our pilot shortage, they have very minimal experience in the FAA nowadays.

I hope we continue with Boeing and avoid the bus, my experience with Airbus is a bit discouraging, however, it was at a company run by a bunch of AA flunkies so that could have been the reason. I'm sure we will be ok no matter which way we go!

In Unity...

Lumberg823 05-12-2024 05:54 PM

I heard it was in the case of a gear up landing they were concerned about the aft center tank. I can see that being something to look at more closely.


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3801663)
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