ThumbsUp

The story is already out there—just what you choose to believe, I guess. It’s already even covered in this thread. I guess the big lesson is, if you tell a “there I was” story, make sure the person that you’re talking to isn’t an f’ing dumb@ss, AA million miler, or egghead. In this case it sounds like it was an all-in-one.

wndriver

she doesn’t owe explanation to anybody? Not to the SWA pilots she rode with? To the UA pilots for possibly messing up the jumpseat agreement?

she didn’t call the FAA, but she told someone who told FAA? Isn’t that pretty much the same thing? If she is innocent, then maybe just tell us what exactly happened so we don’t keep speculating since you seem to be close to the source.

yes, UA pilots are still welcome on my plane.

SoFloFlyer

Not at all. Can’t pay for the sins of others, that’s not fair on anyone. Why would anyone be held responsible for another person’s actions?

BlueScholar

So your conclusion is that any conversation or apology should be between the UAL pilot, the SWA crew, UAL Pro Standards and SWA Pro Standards? Then logic would dictate the debrief to the masses should come from UAL ALPA and SWAPA respectively. If you're not one of those parties then ****, and get back to doing your job, which as you note, should still be allowing jumpseats to anyone who needs one that didn't cross a picket line. What more is there left to say?

Datsun

Found one.

No, not kidding you.

Plenty.

(“*******” because mods stated certain things cannot be said here.)

Already have, many times. Still will if the situation calls for it again. What, you think cowardice is a virtue?

So you wish things like job loss on others. Don’t be a pos, or whatever causes you to do things like that. Fixed it for you again. Find it under “editing services” on your tab. Don’t forget to pay it on your retirement day.

Furloughedboi

cant tell if this is sarcasm but the few people making this some woke issue are something else. You really don’t have to white knight for anybody here, it’s not earning you any points. If a dude did this I’d honestly probably be even harsher on him for being a little snitch (if that’s what happened, and I’ve honestly no idea).

Datsun

As legacy APC, your editing tab is covered by the masses.

CBreezy

You actually have no information other than hearsay. Things your buddy heard is not information
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Elevation

At this point she's not really the problem. The problem is the collateral damage we're causing. At one airline I'm familiar with (not SWA or UAL) the chair of an important committee, also a check pilot, decided to "Make her famous" in his words. So do we trust that guy with sensitive information? Is he going rogue or just a fellow pilot acting on impulse? Do I trust him and his leadership if I have an issue?

Our friends who are leaking or spreading information are undermining the good, working order of their respective systems (ASAP, security, training, HIMS, CIRP, etc.). When our friends go rogue they're making crappy plays for pats on the back from the lads. They get those attaboys from the lads too. It's us nerds who pay the bill in degraded trust in our systems, uncommanded jumpseat weirdness and, etc.

We are reacting because somebody may have gone outside of channels, and it hit the news. So we went and undermined confidence in the channels we wanted her to use. Seems pretty dumb.

RippinClapBombs

Haha yeah… tell that to the jury and all the accomplices to a crime rotting in prison after being sentenced to LWOP (Life Without Parole). Your logic is flawed. You can be held accountable for aiding & abetting.

It’s irrelevant to this case though. She won’t be “paying for the sins of others”, maybe just some counseling.