Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   United (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/)
-   -   Reserve (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/147945-reserve.html)

Gooselives 08-03-2024 07:00 PM

Reserve
 
How is the new reserve month rules and lines working? Any positives and negative people experiencing?

TOGALOCK 08-03-2024 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3825736)
How is the new reserve month rules and lines working? Any positives and negative people experiencing?

It hasn’t even been 72 hours yet. Ask again in a few weeks.

The $$$ for a VEC line is pretty sweet though if you live in base.

Long Haul 08-04-2024 06:04 PM

One major gotcha: A TRV (traditional reserve) or an LCL (long call line) reserve on long call has an 18 hour min call out time for a trip, while a VEC pilot has 12 hours. This means that, if there is an open trip that shows at 0700 on Monday, for example, the last moment crew scheduling can assign anyone on long call to this trip is 1300 on Sunday; unless they have someone with a VEC line, in which case they have until 1900. There are trips that become open every day between 1300 and 1900, and Crew Scheduling is required in that case to assign it to a VEC pilot, regardless of silo.

This is how I came to have been working five of the last six days 😞

CaseTractor 08-05-2024 03:49 AM

BESIDES the early reporting requirements of the VEC, is it identical in rules and usage once a reserve stretch has started. Identical to LCL and TRV?

Long Haul 08-05-2024 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by CaseTractor (Post 3826021)
BESIDES the early reporting requirements of the VEC, is it identical in rules and usage once a reserve stretch has started. Identical to LCL and TRV?

No, once a reserve stretch has started, any open trip will first be assigned to a LCL or TRV in silo before a VEC gets it, while any open SC period will first be assigned to a VEC or VSC in silo, if available. But the big difference is the call out time, as I described above, which is applicable for your entire reserve block.

CaseTractor 08-05-2024 06:05 AM

Thanks...

I thought that window was only applied to your last day off before the block. The 1900 notification for a 7 am show example every day would be a meat grinder, and essentially limit the VEC to folks in base or with a very easy commute.

JTwift 08-05-2024 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by CaseTractor (Post 3826055)
Thanks...

I thought that window was only applied to your last day off before the block. The 1900 notification for a 7 am show example every day would be a meat grinder, and essentially limit the VEC to folks in base or with a very easy commute.


if you don’t live in base, VEC is not for you.

glassnpowder98 08-05-2024 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Long Haul (Post 3825973)
One major gotcha: A TRV (traditional reserve) or an LCL (long call line) reserve on long call has an 18 hour min call out time for a trip, while a VEC pilot has 12 hours. This means that, if there is an open trip that shows at 0700 on Monday, for example, the last moment crew scheduling can assign anyone on long call to this trip is 1300 on Sunday; unless they have someone with a VEC line, in which case they have until 1900. There are trips that become open every day between 1300 and 1900, and Crew Scheduling is required in that case to assign it to a VEC pilot, regardless of silo.

This is how I came to have been working five of the last six days 😞

I just got burned by this as well on VEC. It is a little bit of a nice tradeoff that LCL and TRV are first on the list during the assignment window to get the crappy 3 and 4 day redeye trips that fester in open time all month

Swakid8 08-06-2024 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3826111)
if you don’t live in base, VEC is not for you.

This right here… Commuters should be only bid LCLs and TRVs…

dang 08-06-2024 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3826388)
This right here… Commuters should be only bid LCLs and TRVs…

do you think as we get out of busy summer travel VEC will be used less but sit short call more often?


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:06 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands