Originally Posted by SNA320 (Post 3826852)

So if one were to bid for a VEC line as their number one big group, but somehow got edged out by more senior bidders for a VEC, would the bid award default to a traditional reserve line? If bid group number two is a regular line, would the solver just proceeded to the next bid group and award you a line? I'm trying to avoid ending up on reserve if I can't hold a VEC line only. Currently bidding about 30% in BES. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3826892)

Thinking of bidding for a line (with everything waived) instead of RSV, because I'm below the G-line. But then I'm realizing that for September, reserves get 14 days off and line holders only get 12 guaranteed days off. Thinking of just bidding RSV instead. Am I crazy?

Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3826892)

Thinking of bidding for a line (with everything waived) instead of RSV, because I'm below the G-line. But then I'm realizing that for September, reserves get 14 days off and line holders only get 12 guaranteed days off. Thinking of just bidding RSV instead. Am I crazy?

Originally Posted by khergan (Post 3826904)

Lineholders never only get 12 days off. Look at the LPA values in PBS, most NB FO are like 70-72.5 or something like that. You'll likely work 13-16 days only as a line holder in September.

Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3826892)

Thinking of bidding for a line (with everything waived) instead of RSV, because I'm below the G-line. But then I'm realizing that for September, reserves get 14 days off and line holders only get 12 guaranteed days off. Thinking of just bidding RSV instead. Am I crazy?

Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3826892)

Thinking of bidding for a line (with everything waived) instead of RSV, because I'm below the G-line. But then I'm realizing that for September, reserves get 14 days off and line holders only get 12 guaranteed days off. Thinking of just bidding RSV instead. Am I crazy?

Originally Posted by khergan (Post 3826817)

You can expect traditional reserve (TRV), with a potential LCL or VEC depending on how those categories shake out over the next several months. The union just put out some nuances to VEC and LCL lines that may actually make them less desirable.

It wasn't uncommon in the past for more senior folks to bid reserve during the low volume flying seasons to get a break. A lot of guys are trying out the new lines and may or may not stick with stuff like LCL and VEC that on the surface seem like they offer advantages, but may end up with working a lot more. LCL in particular seems to looking like you will be prioritized in getting 3+ day trips even when you are in a mismatched silo. That could turn off people like I mentioned above who are normally line holders and want a bit of a break.

Time will tell, but it's looking like for now, TRV will work the least just based on the rule for VEC and LCL lines as constructed currently. The company pays VEC more and can make you do unlimited short calls on a 12 hour leash, so they're going to use you based on paying you a lot more for the VEC. LCL are structured so that you will always get used on trips so you will be covering the crappy 3-4 day trips that everyone tries to avoid.

Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3826945)

Derp. You're absolutely right, I should have thought of that! Thank you.