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JTwift 08-11-2024 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3827930)
I am not a fan of it either… Especially for those trying to fly but can’t hold LCL…. I sat on the sideline this bid period as a TRV to see how the first month went…

From the sounds and looks of my BES and the allocation of VECs and LCLs, looks like I might have a good chance at a LCL… Seems like all of the VECs were allocated…

I say this as I drove up half-way to base to position myself on the last day of reserve to sit SC….

I still can’t get over how many 1 day short calls get built. They’re determined to get that pound of flesh on the last day.

11atsomto 08-11-2024 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by FLARE99 (Post 3827828)
Yep, and the entire concept of assigning trips to LCL before giving a TRV (who wants to fly) a chance to pick it up doesn't sit well with me. Had multiple TRV's want to pick up a trip last week but they gave it to me on LCL well before the APU window.


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3827930)
I am not a fan of it either… Especially for those trying to fly but can’t hold LCL…. I sat on the sideline this bid period as a TRV to see how the first month went…

From the sounds and looks of my BES and the allocation of VECs and LCLs, looks like I might have a good chance at a LCL… Seems like all of the VECs were allocated…

I say this as I drove up half-way to base to position myself on the last day of reserve to sit SC….


LCL is not the strategy if your desired outcome to squeeze out a couple of more days at home.

unless you are like brand new to this industry out of the military or something ......I'm a little surprised that you are surprised.

maybe SWAkid you will get lucky for September and hold LCL.....but you gonna be workin.

Swakid8 08-11-2024 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3827965)
LCL is not the strategy if your desired outcome to squeeze out a couple of more days at home.

unless you are like brand new to this industry out of the military or something ......I'm a little surprised that you are surprised.

maybe SWAkid you will get lucky for September and hold LCL.....but you gonna be workin.

I am ok with working and not new to the industry…. What I despise is the unpredictable SC conversions….

Like today on last day of reserve going into a HDO, I have to sit SC from 0900-1400…..lol. I can see it if I was going into a FDO were they can have to opportunity to disrupt a day off and extend me if they have no takers for from linehikders to pick up the the 50 percent PPU…

Once I commute to be base, I want to work. If I am not in base, I don’t want to work.. Hence is why I am okay with the prospects of LCL as a commuter.

It’s like a beverage, I either want it hot (tea) or cold (beer, water, etc). Nothing lukewarm… Once I am in base, I looking for any and all flying assignments. But I get home, yeah I rather just be home. None of the i between.

11atsomto 08-11-2024 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3827973)
I am ok with working and not new to the industry…. What I despise is the unpredictable SC conversions….

Like today on last day of reserve going into a HDO, I have to sit SC from 0900-1400…..lol. I can see it if I was going into a FDO were they can have to opportunity to disrupt a day off and extend me if they have no takers for from linehikders to pick up the the 50 percent PPU…

Once I commute to be base, I want to work. If I am not in base, I don’t want to work.. Hence is why I am okay with the prospects of LCL as a commuter.

It’s like a beverage, I either want it hot (tea) or cold (beer, water, etc). Nothing lukewarm… Once I am in base, I looking for any and all flying assignments. But I get home, yeah I rather just be home. None of the i between.


what is your b/s/e?
You want to be at home or at least in your own hotel room paid for by the company, fair desire. For the record, I live within 32 min drive.....and try to grab all the short call I can even on the last day...part of this is of course I am genetically pre programmed to grab all the ADD pay available (a la Free Holiday Inn Express breakfast) but also I find great pride in the my altruistic pursuit of keeping one less person from commuting in or driving by long distance for covering short call.

11atsomto 08-11-2024 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3827973)
I am ok with working and not new to the industry…. What I despise is the unpredictable SC conversions….

Like today on last day of reserve going into a HDO, I have to sit SC from 0900-1400…..lol. I can see it if I was going into a FDO were they can have to opportunity to disrupt a day off and extend me if they have no takers for from linehikders to pick up the the 50 percent PPU…

Once I commute to be base, I want to work. If I am not in base, I don’t want to work.. Hence is why I am okay with the prospects of LCL as a commuter.

It’s like a beverage, I either want it hot (tea) or cold (beer, water, etc). Nothing lukewarm… Once I am in base, I looking for any and all flying assignments. But I get home, yeah I rather just be home. None of the i between.

I live within 35 mins of my primary airport for my domecile. I am also genetically pre programmed to grab all available ADD pay ( think regional pilot at Holiday INN Express Breakfast). Im sure I seem like a jerk with all my negativity, but everytime I pick up an SC........it gives me great pride to know thats one less commuter that has to commute in or drive in from over 2.5 hours.

Gooselives 08-12-2024 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3828038)
I live within 35 mins of my primary airport for my domecile. I am also genetically pre programmed to grab all available ADD pay ( think regional pilot at Holiday INN Express Breakfast). Im sure I seem like a jerk with all my negativity, but everytime I pick up an SC........it gives me great pride to know thats one less commuter that has to commute in or drive in from over 2.5 hours.

Feels and sounds like qol went down with this contract. As a line holder I am constantly reassigned due to reserve gaps. Short call times have been altered. 2am now. And reserve lines sound like fsby now

PossibleDeviation 08-12-2024 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3828331)
Feels and sounds like qol went down with this contract. As a line holder I am constantly reassigned due to reserve gaps. Short call times have been altered. 2am now. And reserve lines sound like fsby now

Im very surprised by the amount of reassignments I've seen so far. Over half my trips in the past two months I've been reassigned multiple times. Already more reassignments than I received at my last airline where I spent over two years.

I'm a fan of LCL so far due to no conversions and the 18 hour callout but that's only because I'm trying to fly to build block. Once I meet my block goal hopefully TRV will provide some relief.

11atsomto 08-12-2024 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3828348)
but that's only because I'm trying to fly to build block.

Not used to hearing that one at a legacy!

60av8tor 08-12-2024 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3828372)
Not used to hearing that one at a legacy!

New and wants to upgrade I imagine.

SoFloFlyer 08-12-2024 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3828348)
Im very surprised by the amount of reassignments I've seen so far. Over half my trips in the past two months I've been reassigned multiple times. Already more reassignments than I received at my last airline where I spent over two years.

I'm a fan of LCL so far due to no conversions and the 18 hour callout but that's only because I'm trying to fly to build block. Once I meet my block goal hopefully TRV will provide some relief.

I’m VEC this month and was extended. The add pay was nice, but I was hoping to get released early. When I called CS, they said that due to the new reserve rules and call outs, I was the only one that can do the trip. CS said that this never happens, but I think it’ll start happening a bit more often if I had to guess


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