Originally Posted by FLARE99 (Post 3827828)

the entire concept of assigning trips to LCL before giving a TRV (who wants to fly) a chance to pick it up doesn't sit well with me.

Originally Posted by jdavk (Post 3827829)

They'll never change. Back in the day CAL had an LCL (before they figured out that they could just convert everyone to SC before the month even started) and they always assigned the long call pilots first because they knew that one cloud in eastern PA would cause EWR to melt. In that case, the LCLs were of no use to the crisis recovery mode.

Originally Posted by khergan (Post 3827842)

With the everything shaking out how it is, I don't see guys taking LCL very often after these first few trial months. It offers no pay advantage and if you end up working 18 days a month, that's not a great deal at all.

As for VEC, I guess guys will have to report in on whether the pay bump was worth it.

Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3827851)

How many as a % of reserve lines are being offered? I’m on the WB and for my base we don’t even have VEC (pretty sure) and very few lcl from what I’ve heard. I’m more of a traditional kinda guy 🤣

Originally Posted by FLARE99 (Post 3827828)

Yep, and the entire concept of assigning trips to LCL before giving a TRV (who wants to fly) a chance to pick it up doesn't sit well with me. Had multiple TRV's want to pick up a trip last week but they gave it to me on LCL well before the APU window.

Originally Posted by AntiCompanyMan (Post 3827741)

57 hours on reserve in the first 12 days of the bid period is crazy. Whats your base/seat/fleet?

Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3827825)

similar story here. The “who gets called first” hierarchy kinda sucks.

I’m just always amazed at how many trips are in open time, how deep red the pool display is, and how there are apparently no more captain spots to be had in the base.

at this point, just give everyone a line and staff trips with premium pay. Flying 4 on, 2 off (throw in 3 off here and there), especially as a commuter, is a quick path to burnout.

final point: I know commuting is a choice, but have any other commuters found that it has been excruciatingly difficult the past 3-4 months? I’m not even talking summer loads. It seems like 90% of the flights are massively delayed or straight up canceled. And this is other airlines, too. I don’t ever remember it being this bad. I think I’ve had one on-time commute in the past three months.

Originally Posted by khergan (Post 3827842)

With the everything shaking out how it is, I don't see guys taking LCL very often after these first few trial months. It offers no pay advantage and if you end up working 18 days a month, that's not a great deal at all.

As for VEC, I guess guys will have to report in on whether the pay bump was worth it.

Originally Posted by McLovin13 (Post 3827906)

Whats VEC?
I know LCL is long call line, and I assume TRV is traditional reserve line and SC= short call

Originally Posted by FLARE99 (Post 3827828)

Yep, and the entire concept of assigning trips to LCL before giving a TRV (who wants to fly) a chance to pick it up doesn't sit well with me. Had multiple TRV's want to pick up a trip last week but they gave it to me on LCL well before the APU window.