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Old 08-24-2024 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
I don’t know any of the legalities involved, but just for argument’s sake:

A. FAs have SSI info in their manuals too
B. All our manuals are digital
C. Our managers are privy to that SSI also
D. My bag gets searched 2-3 times a week by TSA, Customs, or a foreign equivalent
You obviously don’t understand. Pilots reading this do.
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Old 08-29-2024 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
You obviously don’t understand. Pilots reading this do.
My point is, be careful about taking stuff off the planes. A caviler attutude here can be catastophic. Crew meals, water bottles have precedent with pilots only. Take a bite out of that wrap before you walk off the plane. Do not take anything else. I think flt ops has better sense than to test the issue, but the legalities are clear. Taking supplies off the plane is stealing company property. My inference here is the liquor. Not worth it to make that test.

I will not submit to any kind of search by company people. Law enforcement is a different matter. The flight attendants do not have that luxury.

I'll go to jail, cancel the flight, and have ALPA lawyers represent me, then I sue UAL for damages.
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Old 08-29-2024 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald

I will not submit to any kind of search by company people. Law enforcement is a different matter. The flight attendants do not have that luxury.
Um......you should NEVER allow law enforcement to search anything of yours either unless they have a warrant.
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Old 08-30-2024 | 03:43 AM
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Ever hear of the 4th amendment?
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Old 08-30-2024 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by scns77
Ever hear of the 4th amendment?
US courts generally rule that non-consensual TSA searches are "justifiable." I'm not saying I agree with it, but you won't win if you sue the TSA for searching your stuff without consent. I think we're way off topic now
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Old 08-30-2024 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fedy
US courts generally rule that non-consensual TSA searches are "justifiable." I'm not saying I agree with it, but you won't win if you sue the TSA for searching your stuff without consent. I think we're way off topic now
He's not talking about ordinary searches at TSA checkpoints.
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Old 08-31-2024 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
He's not talking about ordinary searches at TSA checkpoints.
neither am I
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Old 09-01-2024 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Fedy
neither am I
To reiderate....If TSA or law enforcement ask to search me or my belongings at the airport or onboard the aircraft (other than at the security checkpoint), I'll tell them to show me a warrant, and if they don't, I will tell them that I do not consent to any searches and simply walk away, and leave the sterile area if necessary.
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Old 09-02-2024 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
I don’t know any of the legalities involved, but just for argument’s sake:

A. FAs have SSI info in their manuals too
B. All our manuals are digital
C. Our managers are privy to that SSI also
D. My bag gets searched 2-3 times a week by TSA, Customs, or a foreign equivalent
He's talking about pew pews knucklehead.
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Old 09-02-2024 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
To reiderate....If TSA or law enforcement ask to search me or my belongings at the airport or onboard the aircraft (other than at the security checkpoint), I'll tell them to show me a warrant, and if they don't, I will tell them that I do not consent to any searches and simply walk away, and leave the sterile area if necessary.
And you'll be escorted out of the airport by LEOs and face company discipline tough guy. Might even catch a couple federal charges if they feel like flexing or are in a bad mood.

Look closely at every airport and you'll see signs informing you that by stepping on airport property and entering the sterile area you consent to search of all belongings.
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