UA and Government Shutdown
12-20-2024 | 07:55 AM
#11
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Because of Musk? Musk?
IIRC the federal fiscal year begins 1 October. It used to begin 1 July, but it was moved up three months in the (apparently vain) hope that by doing so it would allow CONGRESS to get off their fat @$$es and get it done on time. I'd suggest talking to your Senators and Congressperson about your concerns. You know, the guys/gals who are actually RESPONSIBLE under the constitution for coming up with a budget.
IIRC the federal fiscal year begins 1 October. It used to begin 1 July, but it was moved up three months in the (apparently vain) hope that by doing so it would allow CONGRESS to get off their fat @$$es and get it done on time. I'd suggest talking to your Senators and Congressperson about your concerns. You know, the guys/gals who are actually RESPONSIBLE under the constitution for coming up with a budget.
12-20-2024 | 08:45 AM
#12
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12-20-2024 | 09:00 AM
#13
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From: A320 FO
12-20-2024 | 09:13 AM
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[Mod Input] Keep partisan politics off APC. Discussing the underlying issues, and the potential impacts on our industry is fine. Be very careful injecting politics and the tyrpically-accompanying insults that go with it.
12-20-2024 | 09:16 AM
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The amount of fuel wasted by poor ATC is massive (why don't environmentalists care about this). They've been talking about NextGen since before I started flying but just last week I had to hold for 10 minutes because the airplane that landed in front of us didn't cancel IFR.
ADS-B and ACARS told the airline operations when it was on the ground and at the gate with 1 minute of accuracy/transmission delay (we could easily get this down to tens of seconds if anyone cared) but we have to wait for a center supervisor to make a PHONE CALL to figure out the airplane is on the ground.
I'm a fan of being somewhat cautious with change especially regarding safety systems but there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that our current system is not very good and it would be nice if some serious people who prefer getting things done to endless meetings and PowerPoint slides could take a look at it.
12-20-2024 | 09:18 AM
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Privatization is a mixed bag and might not be a panacea but as has been mentioned above the current system isn't exactly wonderful. Perhaps the people at SpaceX currently catching rockets out of the sky could possibly come up with something better? Is that difficult to believe?
The amount of fuel wasted by poor ATC is massive (why don't environmentalists care about this). They've been talking about NextGen since before I started flying but just last week I had to hold for 10 minutes because the airplane that landed in front of us didn't cancel IFR.
ADS-B and ACARS told the airline operations when it was on the ground and at the gate with 1 minute of accuracy/transmission delay (we could easily get this down to tens of seconds if anyone cared) but we have to wait for a center supervisor to make a PHONE CALL to figure out the airplane is on the ground.
I'm a fan of being somewhat cautious with change but there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that our current system is not very good and it would be nice if some serious people who prefer getting things done to endless meetings and PowerPoint slides could take a look at it.
The amount of fuel wasted by poor ATC is massive (why don't environmentalists care about this). They've been talking about NextGen since before I started flying but just last week I had to hold for 10 minutes because the airplane that landed in front of us didn't cancel IFR.
ADS-B and ACARS told the airline operations when it was on the ground and at the gate with 1 minute of accuracy/transmission delay (we could easily get this down to tens of seconds if anyone cared) but we have to wait for a center supervisor to make a PHONE CALL to figure out the airplane is on the ground.
I'm a fan of being somewhat cautious with change but there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that our current system is not very good and it would be nice if some serious people who prefer getting things done to endless meetings and PowerPoint slides could take a look at it.
12-20-2024 | 10:12 AM
#17
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From: Cramped 737 Left Seat
[mod edit] Musk is gonna cause a lot of stress and moral issues during this holiday season. Operational inefficiencies are gonna cause issues on ual network. Please keep in mind it is holiday season and new years:
ATC
FAA inspectors
TSA
FAA certification and liscense staff (this may cause no new hires,
pilot certifications, aircraft inspections, and operational certifications for airlines, delaying hiring, training, and operational launches)
Aircraft manufacturer and airline personnel: delays in receiving necessary certifications, aircraft deliveries, and route approvals. This affects expansion plans, new aircraft integration, and operational efficiency
Longer security lines, potential flight delays, and limited customer service options if airline support teams are affected indirectly.
stay safe out there
ATC
FAA inspectors
TSA
FAA certification and liscense staff (this may cause no new hires,
pilot certifications, aircraft inspections, and operational certifications for airlines, delaying hiring, training, and operational launches)
Aircraft manufacturer and airline personnel: delays in receiving necessary certifications, aircraft deliveries, and route approvals. This affects expansion plans, new aircraft integration, and operational efficiency
Longer security lines, potential flight delays, and limited customer service options if airline support teams are affected indirectly.
stay safe out there
12-20-2024 | 10:34 AM
#18
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From: B787 Captain
TSA and ATC are considered “essential employees” (which begs the question why do we pay non-essential employees with taxpayer dollars), so you wont notice any difference from the everyday buffoonery. Oh, and if the government keeps taking money from your paycheck, then they aren’t shutdown.
12-20-2024 | 10:46 AM
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TSA and ATC are considered “essential employees” (which begs the question why do we pay non-essential employees with taxpayer dollars), so you wont notice any difference from the everyday buffoonery. Oh, and if the government keeps taking money from your paycheck, then they aren’t shutdown.
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12-20-2024 | 11:43 AM
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Privatization is a mixed bag and might not be a panacea but as has been mentioned above the current system isn't exactly wonderful. Perhaps the people at SpaceX currently catching rockets out of the sky could possibly come up with something better? Is that difficult to believe?
The amount of fuel wasted by poor ATC is massive (why don't environmentalists care about this). They've been talking about NextGen since before I started flying but just last week I had to hold for 10 minutes because the airplane that landed in front of us didn't cancel IFR.
ADS-B and ACARS told the airline operations when it was on the ground and at the gate with 1 minute of accuracy/transmission delay (we could easily get this down to tens of seconds if anyone cared) but we have to wait for a center supervisor to make a PHONE CALL to figure out the airplane is on the ground.
I'm a fan of being somewhat cautious with change especially regarding safety systems but there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that our current system is not very good and it would be nice if some serious people who prefer getting things done to endless meetings and PowerPoint slides could take a look at it.
The amount of fuel wasted by poor ATC is massive (why don't environmentalists care about this). They've been talking about NextGen since before I started flying but just last week I had to hold for 10 minutes because the airplane that landed in front of us didn't cancel IFR.
ADS-B and ACARS told the airline operations when it was on the ground and at the gate with 1 minute of accuracy/transmission delay (we could easily get this down to tens of seconds if anyone cared) but we have to wait for a center supervisor to make a PHONE CALL to figure out the airplane is on the ground.
I'm a fan of being somewhat cautious with change especially regarding safety systems but there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that our current system is not very good and it would be nice if some serious people who prefer getting things done to endless meetings and PowerPoint slides could take a look at it.
