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LinaPeru 02-06-2025 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Clearedtocross (Post 3880180)
I'm starting to think that people hanging out on other airline's pages, complaining nonetheless, are not living their lives to the fullest.

Looking down to see who you step on can be quite fulfilling

jdavk 02-06-2025 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Clearedtocross (Post 3880180)
I'm starting to think that people hanging out on other airline's pages, complaining nonetheless, are not living their lives to the fullest.

No truer words ever written. Post of the month.

JFS 3 02-06-2025 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Ripinpeace (Post 3880053)
Really?

1) New hires recently FORCED into left seat a dreadful plane (737) with less than 2k hours cause of how bad junior NB life is
2) Only “worlds” biggest by a few mainline A/C, but DL/AA have UA beat in aircraft owned + way less debt at DL
3) Versus DL all work groups are unionized & UA FA’s living on food stamps and are in a frenzy
4) UA TK has 20 year old CFI’s in Aviate teaching systems to upgrades & new hires
5) The few extra WB’s UA has more than AA/DL are consolidated in unlivable cities like SFO/EWR that people are leaving; enjoy the commute w/ no bookable JS
6) UA still can’t seem to beat DL in profitability/awards/metrics despite massive Crowdstrike handicap

From one kool-aid drinker to another. I salute you

1) Zero people were forced into the left seat. Not a single one. It's easily 5 years to even be competitive for narrowbody captain on the current vacancy bid.
2) Almost 10% more ASM than #2 Delta. More aircraft. What other metrics do you want to use to measure "biggest airline"? Number of hats worn by pilots? Misplaced ego size? OK, you got us.
... You're not worth the rest. Sorry you had to settle for an Air Line, sounds like United HR did a fine job when they sent you the TBNT letter.

C5Diving 02-06-2025 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by JFS 3 (Post 3880243)
1) Zero people were forced into the left seat. Not a single one. It's easily 5 years to even be competitive for narrowbody captain on the current vacancy bid.
2) Almost 10% more ASM than #2 Delta. More aircraft. What other metrics do you want to use to measure "biggest airline"? Number of hats worn by pilots? Misplaced ego size? OK, you got us.
... You're not worth the rest. Sorry you had to settle for an Air Line, sounds like United HR did a fine job when they sent you the TBNT letter.

It was well known DEN 737 CA was being forced on new hires in 23’? Why pretend that didn’t happen

Delta owns more aircraft due to their regional ownership is what I believe he was saying, so that seems valid too. So… DL/AA first to 1,000+ fleet ownership vs UA first to 1,000 mainline fleet. But between all those 737’s onboarding at UA and RJ’s, both kinda suck to be in.

Does anyone actually care about ASM? Wouldn’t profit be the bottom line at which to measure success of a business? And more importantly profit sharing?

By other metrics maybe on-time performance, awards from JD Power, Forbes, Points Guy? I think DL has #1 awards for best U.S. business class, app, frontline service, etc.

UA tends to be more union heavy with UA flight attendants being less than satisfied.

UA is USD 10B more in debt than Delta.

Most of UA’s favorable WB flying that makes flying for UA “exotic” does seem to all be in SFO, with EWR being a far second. Both of which are having mass exoduses to TX, FL, Carolina’s, GA due to cost of living, crime, and poverty.

I know I’m running to Rip’s defense here despite him being a troll. But plainly put many of these metrics are facts. Delta may have an ego, but it’s done the company and pilots well for many years.

The amount of hate UA pilots seem to direct at Houston pilots seems absurd/internally very hostile over there as a side note. And, definitely not as “non-egotistical/friendly skies” sounding as you wanna make it sound over there.. IAH being the only viable base in United network for many; it would be for myself


Clearedtocross 02-06-2025 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by C5Diving (Post 3880267)
It was well known DEN 737 CA was being forced on new hires in 23’? Why pretend that didn’t happen

Delta owns more aircraft due to their regional ownership is what I believe he was saying, so that seems valid too. So… DL/AA first to 1,000+ fleet ownership vs UA first to 1,000 mainline fleet. But between all those 737’s onboarding at UA and RJ’s, both kinda suck to be in.

Does anyone actually care about ASM? Wouldn’t profit be the bottom line at which to measure success of a business? And more importantly profit sharing?

By other metrics maybe on-time performance, awards from JD Power, Forbes, Points Guy? I think DL has #1 awards for best U.S. business class, app, frontline service, etc.

UA tends to be more union heavy with UA flight attendants being less than satisfied.

UA is USD 10B more in debt than Delta.

Most of UA’s favorable WB flying that makes flying for UA “exotic” does seem to all be in SFO, with EWR being a far second. Both of which are having mass exoduses to TX, FL, Carolina’s, GA due to cost of living, crime, and poverty.

I know I’m running to Rip’s defense here despite him being a troll. But plainly put many of these metrics are facts. Delta may have an ego, but it’s done the company and pilots well for many years.

The amount of hate UA pilots seem to direct at Houston pilots seems absurd/internally very hostile over there as a side note. And, definitely not as “non-egotistical/friendly skies” sounding as you wanna make it sound over there.. IAH being the only viable base in United network for many; it would be for myself

OK Delta guys your airline is the best. Now please go back over there. Cripes all mighty.

JFS 3 02-06-2025 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by C5Diving (Post 3880267)
It was well known DEN 737 CA was being forced on new hires in 23’? Why pretend that didn’t happen

I just looked at the DEN 737 seniority list - not a single captain was assigned as a new hire. 100% of them are there via vacancy bid or base trade. Tell us more about how your first-choice airline operates though!

You should probably talk to someone about getting over the rejection. But hey, policing guard all day and reminding your peers about their hats, that's important stuff too.

jerryleber 02-06-2025 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by C5Diving (Post 3880267)
UA is USD 10B more in debt than Delta.

Actually, $12.7B more, but also has $11.4B more cash. Try to think net debt.

jhugz 02-06-2025 01:43 PM

Wait…so could someone explain this to me like I’m a toddler.

Is this really an article written by a DEI hire, complaining about DEI hires?

Hammer24 02-06-2025 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3880174)
It to the MODs forever to shut that stupid ass DEI thread, what’s you think this will be any different….

lol

I will say trump initially bashed DEI on his first press conference following the crash because the white House knew the names and identities of the people involved moments after it happened. The PSA captain named Campos and the helicopter pilot was female. Both fit into the dei category . We all know how trump feels about immigrants and women. Feels both are beneath him.
Next, every woman, African American, Latina, Indian ,or any other demographics you see operating aircraft united aren't necessary dei hires. You guys are fools for thinking that. Most were here well before dei even became a thing. Next , they all had to pass the same check rides and line checks you did. No pathway was given to anyone so get over it and move on.
And united maybe the biggest airline in reference to the number of aircraft,but we lack far behind Delta in customer service.We have some of the rudest, most ghetto gate agents and flight attendants I've ever seen. It seems to be getting worse. It's embarrassing at times . Flight attendants say anything in front of passengers, gate agents ghetto talking to people so rudely , it's a shame.We are the biggest not the best . Our customer service sucks during normal ops, and when things go south during a weather event or something,it's 10x worse.

GPullR 02-06-2025 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by C5Diving (Post 3880267)
It was well known DEN 737 CA was being forced on new hires in 23’? Why pretend that didn’t happen

Delta owns more aircraft due to their regional ownership is what I believe he was saying, so that seems valid too. So… DL/AA first to 1,000+ fleet ownership vs UA first to 1,000 mainline fleet. But between all those 737’s onboarding at UA and RJ’s, both kinda suck to be in.

Does anyone actually care about ASM? Wouldn’t profit be the bottom line at which to measure success of a business? And more importantly profit sharing?

By other metrics maybe on-time performance, awards from JD Power, Forbes, Points Guy? I think DL has #1 awards for best U.S. business class, app, frontline service, etc.

UA tends to be more union heavy with UA flight attendants being less than satisfied.

UA is USD 10B more in debt than Delta.

Most of UA’s favorable WB flying that makes flying for UA “exotic” does seem to all be in SFO, with EWR being a far second. Both of which are having mass exoduses to TX, FL, Carolina’s, GA due to cost of living, crime, and poverty.

I know I’m running to Rip’s defense here despite him being a troll. But plainly put many of these metrics are facts. Delta may have an ego, but it’s done the company and pilots well for many years.

The amount of hate UA pilots seem to direct at Houston pilots seems absurd/internally very hostile over there as a side note. And, definitely not as “non-egotistical/friendly skies” sounding as you wanna make it sound over there.. IAH being the only viable base in United network for many; it would be for myself

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Have you actually ever been to Atlanta?? Armpit of the world.


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